What if a disaster happened right now?

[DeltaV]

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Looks like you're good for almost a week if you don't drink on Sunday.

 

[hemi*guy]

If you have it and they know it you better be ready to fight for it.

 

[guy gadbois]

I'm sure you're right. I'm just some poor dumb ****** over here hiding in the corner. Accept my apologies. I'm not worried about the army, it's the 100's of thousands of crazy bastard that will take everything you have including your wife. The government is the least of your problems, it's your neighbor you need to worry about. Just my opinion.

No apology necessary. Notice i didnt even red x you... ;)
Actually the govt isnt the least of your worries as thats who is/will be responsible for the situation... but I dont want to get the thread closed down.
My example simply stated that even an army division - well, maybe not a division because I cant remember how many that is - will be overwhelmed by THOUSANDS.
Yes, a group is better than the individual in a SHTF situation as stated, but some of us don't have a group. Most of us don't have a farm to run to. Many of us are stuck in urban or suburban environments without the ability to get out, often, if not usually, due to circumstance beyond our control. Getting as far out of urban centers as possible is obviously the first thing to do. If one can move to an area of like minded people and/or extended family, even better, but some cannot do so realistically. So, what are we left with? Self defence and making it very costly for the teeming masses to hit your particular location. In most any urban or suburban location, there will be plenty of easy marks; the best defence is to make you and yours difficult. When theres a corpse or two in front of your house, those who are inclined to engage in such activity will be encouraged to go next door to the house with the prius in the driveway sporting 'coexist' bumper stickers...

 

[Budnicks]

2 weeks in the fridge & freezer maybe another 2 weeks
I usually have more that that, especially dry goods

fuel wise it'd suck ***
I do keep my rigs all full, usually
I do have 10-20 gallons of gas for generators
I recycle & put in my truck & refill every few months
transportation would be a real issue, eventually
especially with an elderly man/dad needing specific RX regularly

heat we have a crapload of trees nearby
&/or to cook,
I also have a BBQ & bunch of bags of brickets
may need to saw them down by hand/buck saw etc.
wildlife around here we have a crapload of them too
but if SHTF, everyone up here would be hunting/killing
& eating them too
water would suck, we are on a lil' community ran water district

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example; sort of
Once the power went out for 7+ days (maybe 10 ?) here,
maybe 7-8 years ago
It started to get bad here, no help from the powers to be
feds, state, local govt. Power Co., Water co. etc.
all pretty much said; "you're on your own & fend for yourself",
suggestions like;
"leave go down to the valley or to a relatives place"
not with a bunch of animals etc.

It was like 15* outside too, mid Jan. IIRC
we had food for a month at least, no problem
lots of dried good if need be, top ramen bean rice pasta cerials,
canned foods, meat in the freezer,
keep stuff outside in the snow if need be, if the generator couldn't run
just getting drinking water, jugs to flush the toilets too
& having to stoke a fire 24-7, is a real deal
(hard work, I can handle it, but someone much older would/could die)

I'm sure something down in town, 10-11 miles away they had supplies...
We had a generator & lots of wood,
thank goodness I had just filled all my fuel jugs...
I helped my nextdoor neighbors out too, they had young kids like 2-3 & 5-6
they/we shared food, ate with each other, saved supplies
& I shared my fuel, so they'd still have the generator too,
not many gas stations were even open what ones that were,
it was a big outage up here
wet snow/then freezing conditions, ice took out a bunch of trees
that took out a bunch of powerlines, crazy ****
MOTHER NATURE is a cruel BITCH
Stations were rationing gas... 10 gal. per customer,
my deal was about 3 gal. every 12 hrs
I'd run it 1/2 the day... fire it back up the next day do the same thing...
didn't need it to run 24/7...
Mainly the fridge, a light & a lil space heater for my dad,
he's always cold, even with a fire roaring
(this was before his heart opperation)
Darren' the man of the house next door was down in Pismo Beach area,
on some emergency assignments, some disaster, spill or wildlife-related,
doing something with/for the Ca.DoF&G

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Inconveniences like;
shitting 'hanging it out' over a log outside, burring it, isn't fun
using grass to wipe your ***, isn't fun either...
I'm sure my Neanderthal ways would come back...

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The plandemic or future panicking ********, those part-timers that
come up here from the valley
or them greedy fucks during the 2020-21 plandemic
coming up here to shop, we didn't close down like they all did
because most all of their stores where almost empty down in the valley/shitty's,
because of their greed/select hoarders...
Screw the next guy, I'm getting mine, their I don't care about yours, attitudes...
Because of the greedy ******** hoarding **** t-paper & p-towells, baby formula
soups, dry goods, most all staples, they really were/still are ********...

I didn't have an issue, but I know a couple people that did

when times get tough, the real bad people show their ugly heads

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I'm prepared for some of it, not all of it
I wish for the best, hopefully it doesn't come down to me
needing to have to use my acquired skill/s set/s

I'm a survivor, if it was just me, It'd be no problem
I can & will adapt & overcome
but;
I worry about my elderly dad
or my dog (he's not getting any younger either)

I guess it depends on the specific situations

I hope it never comes to that in my lifetime
.
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.
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.
.
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.
BUT;
with the current ******** at 1600 Penn. Ave
it may not be as far-fetched either, coming true or to fruition...
There's such division in this country now,
Americans pitted against each other,
the race relation has gone to **** since Nov 2008, set US all back 60+ years now
they've set * have stoked the fires...

We see it every damn day, from the so-called leaders
the great 'divider in Chief' stoked the fires, divided the nation..
(can we even trust the woke govt., 1st responders, military to do the right thing ?)

IMHFO the inner-shitty's would kill most all of each other off 1st...
Depleat all their resources 1st...
It's not like it used to be...
Americans standing together, no matter what, American pride
help one another, IMHFO it'd probably be everyone fends for themselves...

Only the strongest or toughest/or ruthless/lawless greedy fucks, will survive
(you can see it even in the posts here)
The elites will all run & hide, locked away in some safe space,
so the snowflakes don't melt...
Instead of standing up, being a real leader & having law & order
sense of calm, we got this ****, don't worry
They'll all panick, they've already proved that, during the plandemic & riots

rant over

 

[Pops1967GTX]

I have a 3 month supply of emergency food. My wife and family response. I an’t eating that stuff. So about 6 hours until the complaints start.

 

[VANDAN]

I have a 3 month supply of emergency food. My wife and family response. I an’t eating that stuff. So about 6 hours until the complaints start.

When you're Really hungry, it's surprising how Good "that stuff" tastes. I run on empty, a lot of days, so I'm kinda trained to get by on minimums...

 

[moparwacko]

Those of us who have a functional RV will also be better off. I'm pretty rural here, but have enough stored diesel and gas to get where hardly anyone would know. We used to summer off grid in the camper, and actually liked it. Large enough solar panels to keep the batteries charged, keep the fridge operational and minimal lighting. You learn how to hunt and fish and grow veggies. It's not as bad as you think. A good DC portable radio will also come in handy as well as a good watchdog. The hardest part for some will be the lack of communication and or social media. Sometimes it's best to be on your own, if not only for a test.

 

[copper67sat]

Bigger problem for us is the wife's meds. She gets 3 months of insulin at a time, plus supplies for her insulin pump, as well as most of her heart meds, but some are only dispensed a month at a time. Not sure how long she'd last once those ran out and she definitely wouldn't be any fun to be around when her sugars got out of whack and her anxiety kicked in - been there, done that.

I have a few prescriptions, but nothing I couldn't live without.

 

[WileE]

2 weeks in the fridge & freezer maybe another 2 weeks

fuel wise it'd suck ***
I have 10-20 gallons of gas for generators
I recycle & put in my truck & refill every few months
transportation would be a real issue, eventually
especially with an elderly man/dad needing specific RX regularly

heat we have a crapload of trees nearby
&/or to cook,
I also have a BBQ & bunch of bags of brickets
may need to saw them down by hand/buck saw etc.
wildlife around here we have a crapload of them too
but if SHTF, everyone up here would be hunting/killing
& eating them too
water would suck, we are on a lil' community ran water district

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

example; sort of
Once the power went out for 7+ days (maybe 10 ?) here,
maybe 7-8 years ago
It started to get bad here, no help from the powers to be
local govt. Power Co., Water co. etc.
"you're on your own & fend for yourself",
suggestions like, "leave go down to the valley
or to a relatives place"
not with a bunch of animals etc.

It was like 15* outside too, mid Jan. IIRC
we had food for a month at least, no problem
lots of dried good if need be, top ramen bean rice pasta cerials,
canned foods, meat in the freezer,
keep stuff outside in the snow if need be, if the generator couldn't run
just getting drinking water, jugs to flush the toilets too
& having to stoke a fire 24-7, is a real deal
(hard work, I can handle it, but someone much older would/could die)

I'm sure something down in town, 10-11 miles away they had supplies...
We had a generator & lots of wood,
thank goodness I had just filled all my fuel jugs...
I helped my nextdoor neighbors out too, they had young kids like 2-3 & 5-6
they/we shared food, ate with each other, saved supplies
& I shared my fuel, so they'd still have the generator too,
not many gas stations were even open what ones that were,
it was a big outage up here
wet snow/then freezing conditions, ice took out a bunch of trees
that took out a bunch of powerlines, crazy ****
MOTHER NATURE is a cruel BITCH
Stations were rationing gas... 10 gal. per customer,
my deal was about 3 gal. every 12 hrs
I'd run it 1/2 the day... fire it back up the next day do the same thing...
didn't need it to run 24/7...
Mainly the fridge, a light & a lil space heater for my dad,
he's always cold, even with a fire roaring
(this was before his heart opperation)
Darren' the man of the house next door was down in Pismo Beach area,
on some emergency assignments, some disaster, spill or wildlife-related,
doing something with/for the Ca.DoF&G

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Inconveniences like;
shitting 'hanging it out' over a log outside, burring it, isn't fun
using grass to wipe your ***, isn't fun either...
I'm sure my Neanderthal ways would come back...

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The plandemic or future panicking ********, those part-timers that
come up here from the valley
or them greedy fucks during the 2020-21 plandemic
coming up here to shop, we didn't close down like they all did
because most all of their stores where almost empty down in the valley/shitty's,
because of their greed/select hoarders...
Screw the next guy, I'm getting mine, their I don't care about yours, attitudes...
Because of the greedy ******** hoarding **** t-paper & p-towells, baby formula
soups, dry goods, most all staples, they really were/still are ********...

I didn't have an issue, but I know a couple people that did

when times get tough, the real bad people show their ugly heads

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm prepared for some of it, not all of it
I wish for the best, hopefully it doesn't come down to me
needing to have to use my acquired skill/s set/s

I'm a survivor, if it was just me, It'd be no problem
I can & will adapt & overcome
but;
I worry about my elderly dad
or my dog (he's not getting any younger either)

I guess it depends on the specific situations

I hope it never comes to that in my lifetime
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
BUT;
with the current ******** at 1600 Penn. Ave
it may not be as far-fetched either, coming true or to fruition...
There's such division in this country now,
Americans pitted against each other,
the race relation has gone to **** since Nov 2008, set US all back 60+ years now
they've set * have stoked the fires...

We see it every damn day, from the so-called leaders
the great 'divider in Chief' stoked the fires, divided the nation..
(can we even trust the woke govt., 1st responders, military to do the right thing ?)

IMHFO the inner-shitty's would kill most all of each other off 1st...
Depleat all their resources 1st...
It's not like it used to be...
Americans standing together, no matter what, American pride
help one another, IMHFO it'd probably be everyone fends for themselves...

Only the strongest or toughest/or ruthless/lawless greedy fucks, will survive
(you can see it even in the posts here)
The elites will all run & hide, locked away in some safe space,
so the snowflakes don't melt...
Instead of standing up, being a real leader & having law & order
sense of calm, we got this ****, don't worry
They'll all panick, they've already proved that, during the plandemic & riots

rant over

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I tried to read this. And then...

 

[VANDAN]

Bigger problem for us is the wife's meds. She gets 3 months of insulin at a time, plus supplies for her insulin pump, as well as most of her heart meds, but some are only dispensed a month at a time. Not sure how long she'd last once those ran out and she definitely wouldn't be any fun to be around when her sugars got out of whack and her anxiety kicked in - been there, done that.

I have a few prescriptions, but nothing I couldn't live without.

Many folks are in your shoes. My Mom needs her meds also. We all should be looking for some alternative available "supplements", to pick up the slack when the Time arrives, and stock up on those...

 

[Budnicks]

I tried to read this. And then... View attachment 1469844

 

[ESOXER]

Thanks! Now that I look were falling behind, no hurricanes up here but if Red Dawn starts we're only good for 3 weeks of food. I had a lot of dried/canned meat, rice, beans and canned goods but we've been picking at them since they've aged. Remember guns are loud, in a panic don't give up you position, get a crossbow for hunting, anyone in your family can shoot it.

 

[68gtxman]

I still remember living after the “Big One” in Alaska. No help from anyone except family and friends for weeks. Then came the Salvation Army and the Red Cross. The latter started selling coffee, while the former handed out free food, clothing, blankets, etc. God bless the Salvation Army! The USAF passed out C-rations when we first arrived in state, to store in our homes. These rations kept us alive long after “help” arrived.

You know that I am prepared for pretty much anything. I don’t recommend spelling out your preps either - even to friends and neighbors.

 

[1 Wild R/T]

I still remember living after the “Big One” in Alaska. No help from anyone except family and friends for weeks. Then came the Salvation Army and the Red Cross. The latter started selling coffee, while the former handed out free food, clothing, blankets, etc. God bless the Salvation Army! The USAF passed out C-rations when we first arrived in state, to store in our homes. These rations kept us alive long after “help” arrived.

You know that I am prepared for pretty much anything. I don’t recommend spelling out your preps either - even to friends and neighbors.

After the quake we didn't hardly see my dad for a couple months.. He was an NCO with the Air Force's "Red Horse Battalion" Which is similar to the more familiar Navy "Sea Bees"... Emergency construction... In war they built runways & temporary structures... In disasters they do search & rescue, demolition & reconstruction...

 

[DeltaV]

You can go sparingly on food, but you have to have water.

For example:

How Long Does It Take to Die If You Don’t Eat? Without Food And/or Water.

 

[Hey-O]

You know that I am prepared for pretty much anything. I don’t recommend spelling out your preps either - even to friends and neneighbors.

Well said, my thoughts also. About time someone said it out loud!!! It's called survival, not look at what I have so we all know where we need to go for a free lunch.

 

[SlingLow]

I'm a little surprised no one has mentioned going cannibal.

Donner - party of 15!

Survival of the fittest and all that.

 

[1 Wild R/T]

I'm a little surprised no one has mentioned going cannibal.

Donner - party of 15!

Survival of the fittest and all that.

I've known a few girls that were edible but ya gotta draw a line somewhere...

 

[Hey-O]

I've known a few girls that were edible but ya gotta draw a line somewhere...

Comment of the day officially goes to you!!!

 

[Budnicks]

I still remember living after the “Big One” in Alaska. No help from anyone except family and friends for weeks. Then came the Salvation Army and the Red Cross. The latter started selling coffee, while the former handed out free food, clothing, blankets, etc. God bless the Salvation Army! The USAF passed out C-rations when we first arrived in state, to store in our homes. These rations kept us alive long after “help” arrived.

You know that I am prepared for pretty much anything. I don’t recommend spelling out your preps either - even to friends and neighbors.

My Step-dad Bob was up there Army Reserves at Fort Richardson
'Joint base' with Elmendorf AFB, I know that area very well
he said much of the same things