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I was able to check the VIN / ID numbers on the block and tranny.

The block is a '72 block , front stamp is H 440 on the first line and 12 22 on the second.

The stamped number on the passenger side of the block is 2 C 197458.
If I am right, it was in a Chrysler, assembled at the Jefferson plant.

Hopefully, the block is the same as a '68 440. I do know it was rebuilt in 2000 when I believe the car was restored. It has a Hughes cam and lifter setup and KB pistons that are .030 over installed.

The trans is a year correct 4-speed,18 spline, with a stamped number of 8G151514, which does not match my car. Close, but not close enough.

I am not sure that the fender tag that came with the car belongs to it as I have yet to confirm the sequence number from the trunk rail. it is just too full of paint to read it. I am going to strip the paint off the number area and hopefully, tat will allow me to read the number.

Other clues that the tag might not be the correct one:
Tag says a 26" radiator, but the tape measure says it's 22"
Tag says a console, but no brackets or evidence weld marks on the pan.
Tag says a white vinyl top, but none. That's OK, I didn't want one anyway!
Tag says a 3:54 rear end, but it is 3:23.
Tag says a 4 speed. Yep, got one, but it looks like the 4speed hump was added. Then maybe it was original because a floor pan was replaced, and not a very good job, either! This might also explain no weld marks for the console brackets.
Tag says Front disc brakes, but none
Tag says Power brakes, but manual.

The interior is supposed to be white on blue, but is white on black.


Now, that being said, I love the car. I knew going in that it was not an all original car. I am just a little ticked that someone put a tag on it from another car, attempting to make it something it wasn't. BTW the VIN is a correct RS23L8G tag.


Jeff
 
The VIN should be on the fendor tag....well It is on the 70's I know for sure. Lower right series of numbers/letter should be the VIN.

Its also possible your fendor tag is correct but someone scavenged the car way back when then just threw it together with whatever they could find when they brought yours back to life. Hard to say.
 
On my 67 a partial VIN is also stamped on the radiator support on the driver side. I thought that was typical for at least a few more years, but maybe I'm wrong.

It happens - my 67 has a complete 68 440 motor, a 383 HP torqueflite and a rear end pumpkin from something else.
 
The VIN should be on the fendor tag....well It is on the 70's I know for sure. Lower right series of numbers/letter should be the VIN.

Its also possible your fendor tag is correct but someone scavenged the car way back when then just threw it together with whatever they could find when they brought yours back to life. Hard to say.

This is incorrect for 68- the SO# is on the tag, not the VIN#. Check the radiator support for the SO# as well as the trunk rail, it should match the fender tag.
 
Is the number on the top of the support or the back side? I have scraped the paint/coating down to bare metal on the top and there is no number or even a hint of a number. That's why I am going to remove the paint form the trunk rail to see if I can see the number better.

Jeff


This is incorrect for 68- the SO# is on the tag, not the VIN#. Check the radiator support for the SO# as well as the trunk rail, it should match the fender tag.
 
I have seen some on top of support and some on the radiator facing side.
 
It's on top of the support on mine but it's a 67.
 
I never found one on the core support top yoke on my `68 Road Runner and if it was ever replaced it was done a long time ago as the different layers of paint on it matched the different layers of paint that were on the rest of the car.
 
Elusive number

I will check the backside of the support today.

Unfortunately, the car is in a storage locker and not at the house. I need to do a couple of other odds & ends, so that's on the list today.

The inside of the engine bay has been sprayed with a thick black goo, not paint. I had to use a razor blade to scrape the top of the support when I checked for a number there.

Just waiting for my new steering box from firm feel. It's due next week. I have never liked the Chrysler power steering from the old days. Just too light of a touch.


Jeff
 
I will check the backside of the support today.

Jeff

When looking at the engine bay, it's typically near the right end of the radiator, either on top, or on the rad side (as others have said).

If you want to verify the VIN stamp on the trunk lip, there is an easy way. Open the trunk, get a mirror and flashlight, and about halkway up the drivers side you will find it. Should take less than 20 seconds to find it.
 
Unfortunately, the folks that did the restore on the car, which I believe was back in 2000, sprayed everything with a thick black coating. Not bedliner, but some other material. I have to scrape that off before getting to the number.

I do know where the number is on the trunk lip, I just can't read it through the paint on top.

I did check the backside of the support, and it appears that it is a replacement piece. No number.

Oh well. Let's see, where is that scraper and safety goggles!


Jeff




When looking at the engine bay, it's typically near the right end of the radiator, either on top, or on the rad side (as others have said).

If you want to verify the VIN stamp on the trunk lip, there is an easy way. Open the trunk, get a mirror and flashlight, and about halkway up the drivers side you will find it. Should take less than 20 seconds to find it.
 
I do know where the number is on the trunk lip, I just can't read it through the paint on top.

Jeff

I don't think you understood what I meant, unless you are saying the *inside" upper portion of your trunk is also all painted (which it almost never is). Use the mirror and run it along the underside of the trunk lip, inside the trunk. There is no seal, and no paint in the way, and by using the mirror it automatically reverses the stamping so you can read it.
 
I don't think you understood what I meant, unless you are saying the *inside" upper portion of your trunk is also all painted (which it almost never is).

That is exactly the case... Like I said, when the resto was done, the folks that did it sprayed all non viewable surfaces, including the engine bay, with this thick black junk.

Sooo, I will have to scrape the crud off before I can see the number..

Jeff
 
Ya, I had that thick black junk too.....
 

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Mine's not quite that pebbly looking. It just looks like flat black paint, but thicker..

Going over to the garage this afternoon, so I will try to read the numbers off the trunk lip...

Also, my new steering box from FirmFeel just arrived!! So it's off to the repair shop for install.


Jeff
 
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