Who has MOVED from their home state ? How difficult was it for you?

[Hey-O]

It is hard to spell it out so I'll just write what I can.....
Part of me is ready to go and light a fire on my way out. Screw the bad policies, the high prices, taxes, stinky bums walking the streets and the rainbow flag waving, degenerate, entitled dipshits that have a stranglehold on the media and entertainment industry.
But....much like an abused spouse that can't seem to get up and leave a shitty marriage, I am still hesitant. This state is all that I know. Mom and Dad are gone. Some family remains but not a lot. I have friends but not enough to fill a stadium! No job to anchor me here. The Wife can work anywhere that has a strong internet signal. All that stands in my way is....me.

Look, it's pretty simply. You've lived there forever and love the place in general. If the taxes don't bother you and you live far enough and can't see all the bullshit, then stop worrying about things you can't fix and live your own life. You don't have to live on a mountain to have your own form of freedom. Greg, I have everything in life I want and some days I just wake up unhappy, that's just life.

 

[Billccm]

I've researched the states that have no Californian influx and it seems North and South Dakota are the winners. No surprise these states have low taxes, good roads and schools, etc. These are the best kept secrets in living the American dream.
Yep the winters are severe and there is no beach. So what if I can retire and enjoy 7 or 8 months a year of conservative living I'll find something to do in the garage over the winter.
I may be a Tucson snowbird, too, but I am ready for less liberal living.

 

[barbee6043]

I had a friend I worked with 10 years ago. He was throwing an anniversary party for his wife and himself. He invited some relatives from LA and yep, they made the trip! After they had spent some time there in Springfield,Mo., which is a very decent size city with about anything anyone could ask for, they asked " Just how in the heck do you people stand to live here!!????
I replied, "I don't live here in the city, I live 40 miles out where NORMAL people live"!!!! All he could say was "Damn!!!!??!!!"

 

[Hey-O]

I had a friend I worked with 10 years ago. He was throwing an anniversary party for his wife and himself. He invited some relatives from LA and yep, they made the trip! After they had spent some time there in Springfield,Mo., which is a very decent size city with about anything anyone could ask for, they asked " Just how in the heck do you people stand to live here!!????
I replied, "I don't live here in the city, I live 40 miles out where NORMAL people live"!!!! All he could say was "Damn!!!!??!!!"

My friend owns the two Imo's pizza joints in Springfield and he owns one in Ferguson in st Louis. He makes more from the one in Ferguson where BLM got their start. They call him Mr. John and leave him alone out of respect.

 

[Dennis H]

It is hard to spell it out so I'll just write what I can.....
Part of me is ready to go and light a fire on my way out. Screw the bad policies, the high prices, taxes, stinky bums walking the streets and the rainbow flag waving, degenerate, entitled dipshits that have a stranglehold on the media and entertainment industry.
But....much like an abused spouse that can't seem to get up and leave a shitty marriage, I am still hesitant. This state is all that I know. Mom and Dad are gone. Some family remains but not a lot. I have friends but not enough to fill a stadium! No job to anchor me here. The Wife can work anywhere that has a strong internet signal. All that stands in my way is....me.

Shame a beautiful place like California is ruined by all the stuff in your first paragraph. Retarded liberals are everywhere though. We’ll probably keep the paid off ranch and either snow bird or travel (lower 48 - NO Canada or Mexico) a good part of the year. Linda doesn’t want the desert, and I want no part of the old hometown of Allentown. Nice to know the freedom of choice and flexibility of no employer anchor.

 

[GetX'd]

I've researched the states that have no Californian influx and it seems North and South Dakota are the winners. No surprise these states have low taxes, good roads and schools, etc. These are the best kept secrets in living the American dream.
Yep the winters are severe and there is no beach. So what if I can retire and enjoy 7 or 8 months a year of conservative living I'll find something to do in the garage over the winter.
I may be a Tucson snowbird, too, but I am ready for less liberal living.

Yes - and believe it or not the west side of South Dakota is very pretty too. You have the Black Hills etc. Other than that you can keep the rest of both states. Love the people, politics and COL but just don’t like the terrain - ex the Black Hills. And yes the winters are ala MN style. Could never go back to that except to visit which I do frequently.

 

[GetX'd]

We can fly flags in ours. Used to be able to wash cars but that’s long restricted now and a findable offense. I somewhat get it when the HOA pays for the water with our dues and our bill is substantial. I don’t like it but get it. I really hate paying $25 for a hand wash place. Now they’re mostly washed up at the MIL‘s house. Our place has all the CCnRs but I’ve learned to live and co-exist in favor of keeping our area clean, kept up and nice.

How can you red X me when it’s my place and my point of view for my place? I said I don’t like it - but co-exist w/it. What do you want me to do - move to satisfy you? Explain yourself Mr Driveby……..

 

[Cheapsunglasses]

Do we need to break out these @GetX'd

 

[Kern Dog]

Here comes a question that is NOT meant to insult or attack but I have concerns....
South Arizona has some green and actual trees. The landscape looks nicer to me than the dirt and rocks that I see around other parts of the state.
The question:
Is there a legitimate concern for living so close to the US/Mexico border?
I just wonder about auto theft. I really don't mean to seem judgmental but with stories about gangs and cartels, what are the chances?

 

[Hey-O]

Here comes a question that is NOT meant to insult or attack but I have concerns....
South Arizona has some green and actual trees. The landscape looks nicer to me than the dirt and rocks that I see around other parts of the state.
The question:
Is there a legitimate concern for living so close to the US/Mexico border?
I just wonder about auto theft. I really don't mean to seem judgmental but with stories about gangs and cartels, what are the chances?

Make that move and you'll wish you stayed in California.

 

[GetX'd]

Here comes a question that is NOT meant to insult or attack but I have concerns....
South Arizona has some green and actual trees. The landscape looks nicer to me than the dirt and rocks that I see around other parts of the state.
The question:
Is there a legitimate concern for living so close to the US/Mexico border?
I just wonder about auto theft. I really don't mean to seem judgmental but with stories about gangs and cartels, what are the chances?

Well from here or there in AZ that’s where the hot vehicles often go. Been there lately or ever … there’s 10 shops on every block - think they’re for fixing the locals cars…?

 

[Billccm]

When I moved here in the 1990s (from Santa Clara) Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, and full size RWD GM cars were stolen hourly from WalMart, Target, and Shopping Mall parking lots. Big crack down reduced this theft as several police departments had special operations and the Border Patrol was extra watchful.

It has been many years since I have heard of a car theft from someone I know until recently; a friend of mine just lost his 1990s Suburban with 370K miles to theft. Otherwise, it has been about 20 years since I knew someone who had lost their car.

Funny story, back in the 1990s one of my colleagues In Laws visiting from Chicago had their Chevy Caprice stolen at a WalMart. They replaced it with an Accord and on their next visit to Tucson it was stolen from a Mall parking lot. They bought a Crown Victoria and yes, that was stolen from WalMart's parking lot. That car was recovered, but totaled in a multiple car accident. Not sure what car they bought next, but they REFUSED to drive the car anywhere once they arrived in Tucson until it was time to return to Chicago.

I think shopping mall traffic is down and this too has reduced car theft.

 

[Ray70Chrg]

Hey KD, where in south Az. are you talking about. Usually, if tree and grass are growing naturally in Az. you are in a higher elevation. If that's the case than winter can mean snow and cold temps. Summertime brings the chance of forest fires. As far as being closer to the border, I don't think it's anymore dangerous than anywhere else. **** happens everywhere these days.

 

[Billccm]

Hey KD, where in south Az. are you talking about. Usually, if tree and grass are growing naturally in Az. you are in a higher elevation. If that's the case than winter can mean snow and cold temps. Summertime brings the chance of forest fires. As far as being closer to the border, I don't think it's anymore dangerous than anywhere else. **** happens everywhere these days.

Technically this country no longer has a border, what you say is pretty much true.

 

[moparedtn]

But....much like an abused spouse that can't seem to get up and leave a shitty marriage, I am still hesitant. This state is all that I know.

So, after almost 1000 posts in this thread.....you're saying basically that you have Stockholm Syndrome with California?

 

[moparedtn]

Fellas, we might have to perform an intervention here....

 

[Cheapsunglasses]

 

[73HEMI_RR_GTX]

Here comes a question that is NOT meant to insult or attack but I have concerns....
South Arizona has some green and actual trees. The landscape looks nicer to me than the dirt and rocks that I see around other parts of the state.
The question:
Is there a legitimate concern for living so close to the US/Mexico border?
I just wonder about auto theft. I really don't mean to seem judgmental but with stories about gangs and cartels, what are the chances?

My job relocated my *** to Tucson Az. from Fullerton Ca. in 1995. Hughes Aircraft wanted its Missile Design and Engineering staff to co-occupy the production/manufacturing facility in Tucson (Hughes Missile Systems). I loved Tucson, Great place to raise kids with plenty for them do. Since I was born in Phoenix, I was familiar with living in the desert heat/climate. Tucson's climate is milder, with higher altitude and more rainfall during monsoon season keeping the temperature in the high 90's/low hundreds during most of the summer providing the most beautiful desert on the planet (IMO).

Since I lived there for close to 20 years my opinion of the better areas to live in Tucson are North (Oro Valley), East (Tanque Verde Ranch) and Northwest (Marana). Southside I would not recommend (lots of crime, low lives,)

The "BORDER" was never a problem. And since Jan Brewer was elected Governor (of course she's long gone but), she enforced the existing immigration laws by fining/shutting down the companies/establishment hiring the illegals. Which drove many out of Arizona.

Now living in Tucson may have changed since I moved from Tucson to Laughlin Nv. (2014), But I have always considered Tucson being in a central location to almost anywhere. It also gives you more travel options to have an International Airport.

 

[Billccm]

My job relocated my *** to Tucson Az. from Fullerton Ca. in 1995. Hughes Aircraft wanted its Missile Design and Engineering staff to co-occupy the production/manufacturing facility in Tucson (Hughes Missile Systems). I loved Tucson, Great place to raise kids with plenty for them do. Since I was born in Phoenix, I was familiar with living in the desert heat/climate. Tucson's climate is milder, with higher altitude and more rainfall during monsoon season keeping the temperature in the high 90's/low hundreds during most of the summer providing the most beautiful desert on the planet (IMO).

Since I lived there for close to 20 years my opinion of the better areas to live in Tucson are North (Oro Valley), East (Tanque Verde Ranch) and Northwest (Marana). Southside I would not recommend (lots of crime, low lives,)

The "BORDER" was never a problem. And since Jan Brewer was elected Governor (of course she's long gone but), she enforced the existing immigration laws by fining/shutting down the companies/establishment hiring the illegals. Which drove many out of Arizona.

Now living in Tucson may have changed since I moved from Tucson to Laughlin Nv. (2014), But I have always considered Tucson being in a central location to almost anywhere. It also gives you more travel options to have an International Airport.

Like I've said before Arizona is now Eastern California.

 

[barbee6043]

Immigration? Think of it this way.... 95% of those millions that come across illegally and NOT vetted are looking for a better life, though illegally. That other 5 % are criminals, some just bigger and more dangerous than the others. Most of the crooks go to the city for activity, not the sticks. Too many homes with loaded guns and people that shoot in the sticks. Plus usually some big, bad dogs outside.