What's it Worth '71 Charger

[toolmanmike]

In his defense, he is being honest about the status despite it working against him financially. I applaud him for his integrity.



Thank you for that. More people should have an attitude like yours.

I was impressed that he said it was rebodied. All too many now days purposely deceive when it comes to things like this. They don't want to take a hit on the drop in value because of it. Now, again about value, Because of the rebody, the value will be quite low compared to a clean titled car. I said $10,000. It might fetch $15 to the right buyer but that buyers pool is in the low percentage simply because of the rebody. Out of 100 potential buyers, may be less than 5 would be interested after finding out.

Honestly, in my mind I would think a running driving Charger...with zero rust issues, should sell.

I would always ensure any prospective buyer knows what has been done to it. I do not think the "sum of its parts" is a true realistic valuation. Maybe I am way off base here. This is why I am asking.

At the end of the day, it is a running, driving, 1971 dodge Charger. 25K is probably a good starting point. If the PO hadn't rebodied it....that price would be at least twice that.

Put it up for sale and start at $25. You can always come down.

 

[Rebelrouser]

I guess it is worth what someone will pay. Nice looking car, and I am sure fun to drive around. The way I look at it is that those who worry about maintaining the value of the car as an investment will worry about the numbers and VIN. Those who just want a car to enjoy will be your buyers. In my experience the big money goes to the investment and numbers people.

Not a Mopar but this just happened in my little town. 1970 Camaro, LT1 four speed car 23,000 original miles sold by the local chevy dealer, owner getting older decides to sell and did. Car needs some work as they just go to hell from sitting. Guy who bought it has no knowledge of what correct numbers matching means and does not care. So, in goes the aluminum radiator, and on goes the aftermarket aluminum heads etc. So the car is his he can do what he wants with it, but the numbers guys in my car club are absolutely horrified. The smart thing I guess would have been for the guy to buy a 6-cylinder car and fix it up, as I am sure he is destroying the value of an original collector car. But the owner looks at it as the car is solid and he wants just a fun car.

 

[Runcharger]

Bottom line is it looks like a 71 R/T (they don't grow on trees) and it's got the 440 to match. So it's a good driving 440, 71 Charger complete with rare, doors, hood and tail lights. Not going to buy that for $10k ladies.
Probably $25k or so anyway. However it will have to be retitled with a state VIN depending on where it lives, so it needs an owner that can deal with that process.
Probably best case would be someone, somewhere owns a real R/T shell with title and is missing everything else and could put together a legit car with all the parts off this one.
I think if I owned it I would sit on it and wait for a real R/T shell and title to come along. If you think that's a stupid idea, well go right now and try to find all those parts and price them out if you can find them.

 

[#41]

The first thought that came to my mind was ask $25k, then I read the same number in many of the threads. I'd say that is a good starting point. It will be harder to sell with the VIN swap, but sooner or later a buyer will get over that and make you a offer.

The funny thing is, if the guy had just left the original VIN on the car and added all the R/T stuff to build a clone, it would be worth more.

 

[Skytrooper]

Hey thanks for all the input ! This place rocks !

I told my wife that I thought 25k would be the top of the value chart. You all have confirmed that is a good starting point. Negotiating a price lets both party’s walk away feeling good. I think that can be an attainable goal.
As many have said, I will just have to wait for the right buyer. Someone that just wants a cool car to play with. Something a bit cheaper than the real thing, but still looks the same.

 

[Nxcoupe]

Ok, so you have a VIN tag on the dash, fender tag, and matching numbers engine, does the cowl vin match the tag? Core support number? If the car has a title and tags it is already titled, no need to go get the state involved, that's just silly.

 

[Skytrooper]

VIN tag on dash,vin sticker on drivers door, and matching engine all match. It doesn’t have a fender tag. My assumption is that that fender was replaced. I never found one on the cowl, at least a vin. I think it might have been the cowl part number. It was very small and even with my glasses I could not read it. Core support has a different number. It has been legally on the road, and driven, for 3.5 years.

 

[Curiousyellow71]

Ok, so you have a VIN tag on the dash, fender tag, and matching numbers engine, does the cowl vin match the tag? Core support number? If the car has a title and tags it is already titled, no need to go get the state involved, that's just silly.

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I don't know a state that wouldn't accept the VIN's that are present as described for a title. I have a superbee and a 70 challenger that the radiator support wasn't salvageable. Neither has the VIN in that location and the original engines are long gone. Both have had plenty of AMD and donor car parts to get it back on the road. The purist likely isnt the next buyer...but someone that appreciates what it is and wants to have fun. 25k I think is a good starting place. We are pretty much upside down on any car we restore nowadays. I understand the drama associated with a rebodied car..but I often wonder when the thinking will change. These cars are over 50 years old now and there are a bunch of parts specific to this car that are not easy to find.

 

[1968rt]

In New York your fine. Vin, motor and door are more than enough.

 

[70 sublime]

What will end up happening is someone will get the car for a nice price and three owners later someone will forget to say rebody in the sale ad

 

[Nxcoupe]

VIN tag on dash,vin sticker on drivers door, and matching engine all match. It doesn’t have a fender tag. My assumption is that that fender was replaced. I never found one on the cowl, at least a vin. I think it might have been the cowl part number. It was very small and even with my glasses I could not read it. Core support has a different number. It has been legally on the road, and driven, for 3.5 years.

So the cowl was replaced, and prob so was the core support with a used original from another car. Pretty broad statements here from folks that have never seen the car.
Under the car, under the undercoating, what color is it?

 

[DeltaV]

One recent data point for comparison:
1972 Charger 440 Rallye with a Mancini 493 stroker. Posted 24 days ago on Facebook Marketplace for $33,500

1972 Dodge Charger

 

[Runcharger]

"Ok, so you have a VIN tag on the dash, fender tag, and matching numbers engine, does the cowl vin match the tag? Core support number? If the car has a title and tags it is already titled, no need to go get the state involved, that's just silly."

Uh: Well if I went to register this car where I live, they would inspect the body numbers, call in the police and I'd be trying to explain myself out of jail. So I don't think that would be too silly, do you?

 

[Belvedere408]

I like the car and am someone who doesn’t care about numbers matching and all that. I’d look at it as a sweet Mopar in the 25k range. Someone should wanna buy it to drive it, not an investment.

 

[F4R/T]

Well said KD I stand with you, I applaud the honesty. I think 25 -30 would be decent I have a 72 small block car , I know the 71 is more desirable and I get it but you need to look at it what would it take to buy one and just put it on the road no numbers stuff just drive it and enjoy it..

 

[Nxcoupe]

"Ok, so you have a VIN tag on the dash, fender tag, and matching numbers engine, does the cowl vin match the tag? Core support number? If the car has a title and tags it is already titled, no need to go get the state involved, that's just silly."

Uh: Well if I went to register this car where I live, they would inspect the body numbers, call in the police and I'd be trying to explain myself out of jail. So I don't think that would be too silly, do you?

Lol, I'd move. But he stated there is no number on the cowl, and the core support may have other numbers, but if your leo have an issue with a 50 year old car having crash repair, then that is picking flyshit out of pepper.

 

[71RRHI]

I agree with everyone on the 25k starting price. I read all the time people posting how the hobby has become over priced. Here is a car I would call a perfect entry level car for some one wanting to get into the hobby. They could buy this, and be at the next local car show/cruise that weekend. Make improvements and changes to make it their own.

Hmm…141 views in 24 hours, and not one idea ?

I am very surprised

On a side note, where does one go to see how many veiws a thread has?

 

[Belvedere408]

I agree with everyone on the 25k starting price. I read all the time people posting how the hobby has become over priced. Here is a car I would call a perfect entry level car for some one wanting to get into the hobby. They could buy this, and be at the next local car show/cruise that weekend. Make improvements and changes to make it their own.


On a side note, where does one go to see how many veiws a thread has?

To see the views for my setup, I turn my phone sideways.

 

[YY1]

One recent data point for comparison:
1972 Charger 440 Rallye with a Mancini 493 stroker. Posted 24 days ago on Facebook Marketplace for $33,500


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1972 Dodge Charger

With PW and AC!

 

[OMTWF-72SE]

In AZ I'm pretty sure this ends up with a salvage title like the last 2 72s I've had. I've the salvage title is due to rescue after wrecks. But never discussed VIN transfer with anyone at MVD. If I could get it to AZ counting travel to see and transport back for $25 that would make sense. But $27-30k to get it to AZ would be excessive to me and would eliminate the money I'd need to put AC back in it.