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Advice needed on rear gear ratio.

LR1970

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I need some advice on the gear ratio to use in my car. I was thinking 3.5 to 1 for better highway driving but best to ask others who have been there and done it. Maybe 3.7 3.9?

Here is my set up

72 Roadrunner
15 inch Rally wheels with 60 height tires
727 with 3000 stall
440 + 30
factory forged crank
Light weight 'STEEL' rods
Hypereutectic pistons
906 heads with os valves and mild porting
hedman headers and 3 inch exhaust
509 cam, or similar
RPM Performer intake with 750 performance holley vac sec
 
"60 height tires" doesn't mean squat. What is the actual tire size, or their diameter?

How many RPM do you think you want to see at cruise, and what do you cruise at for MPH?
 
3:55 rear end ratio is a good all around ratio for all driving. you can burn 'em off nicely....and still do some hi-way cruising without hitting the red line! i have 3:55's in both my cars.
 
27 inch height tyres, Mickey Thomson Sportsman S/T 255 x 60 x 15. The Summit calculator gives 3:23 ratio to cruise at 55 miles at 2200 rpm. I was more after advice on the cam and stall combination in relation to rear drive ratios. 3:55s sounds good.
 
I have had your size tires with 3.90's And my small block auto trans and it felt great but rpm's at 70mph were 3500. I recommend 3.55's which is what I run now. If you decide to go up in tire size 3.23's would probably be too small. 3.90's would work fine too if you are not on the highway for long stretches or just bump up the rear tire size.

Just my opinion. . .
 
The .509 cam with a 3000 stall is pretty aggressive for street driving and begs for a 4.10 or deeper gear in my opinion. 3.55's will help if you have something really tall, but to me they are not an extended freeway gear. Even 3.23's can get on your nerves at 75 MPH for 5 hours. I agree the 3.55 is a great dual purpose gear but I'd tone the cam down a notch or two.
 
The .509 cam with a 3000 stall is pretty aggressive for street driving and begs for a 4.10 or deeper gear in my opinion. 3.55's will help if you have something really tall, but to me they are not an extended freeway gear. Even 3.23's can get on your nerves at 75 MPH for 5 hours. I agree the 3.55 is a great dual purpose gear but I'd tone the cam down a notch or two.


Read THIS ^^^^^ and keep readin it. 3.55s SUCK in a heavy B body unless you're grandma goin for groceries. And really, don't even come back with some kinda "mileage" whine. To which I will say "go buy a Prius."

First, you said 3.55 gears. I gotta vomit. Second, you said 3000 stall. Ok, lets cover that all by itself. With a 3.55 gearset, your converter will still be slipping at highway speed. That creates excess heat. Guess what an automatic transmission's worst enemy is? Say it with me. H E A T.

Third, you said 509 or similar. Actually, I would recommend the Comp Nostalgia purple plus 509 version. WAY more modern grind and it'll burn tires around the old 509. Anyway, as Meepomous said, a cam like that requires IMO at least a 4.10 gear to even begin to get the benefits. Maybe even a 4.30 in a heavy B body.

Ok, "60" is not the tire height. A little ejemakashun. Tire sizes are like this here. Lets say for kicks you gotta 235 60 15 tire. Here's how it breaks down. "235" means that the tire's section width (from outside sidewall to outside sidewall) is 235mm wide. Simple huh? Ok, what about "60"? That means the sidewall height (from inner circumference or bead to the tread) is 60% of the 235mm section width. Simple again, no? Of course lastly, we have the 15. That simply refers to the wheel diameter the tire is designed to fit on.

So, how do we get HEIGHT from all that thank you Jimmy Carter for the metric system horse hockey? Here's how. You take the section width (235 in our example) then multiply that times our aspect ratio (60 series in our example) so 235 x 60% = 141. Well hold on, we know the tire has to be taller than 141mm, right? See, that's only the height of the sidewall, plus the tread. So, we have to multiply that times 2. 141mm x 2 = 282mm. But damn. We're still not through. Cause we know the damn tire is taller than 282mm (11.11"). What did we do wrong? Hay, remember that 15" wheel in the middle? So, 11.11 + 15" = 26.11". NOW we got somewhere.

If you followed all that, that is how to figure tire sizes. It sucks. I never have understood why they just could not go to sizing them like racing slicks. Like 28 x 9 x 15. So simple. Oh wait....they used to but Jimmah had to frig it all up.
 
You want a 3000 stall but want to cruise at 2200? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
 
:hijacked: Lurking in the background here reading this post, thinking as it goes along I'm pretty much phucked.. I'd like to drive the car to the track, 1 1/4-1 1/2 hr. each way at 65. At that speed Im turning 3500 rpm. Have a 440 30 ovr 727/redwood clutches, b&m streetfighter w/3500 stall, seperate trans cooler, 750 holley w/street dominator, kb flat tops, pretty serious cam. (don't know specs, dont know anything bout heads/valves etc) Got it this way. Previous owner no help he got it that way. He didn't build it. Supposedly runs in the 11's. Wanted to change rear to 3:55's to run a little lower revs on hiway. I don't have any lack of low end. Have 275/60/15's in the rear, can smoke them for 150' break em loose with a stab at 35 mph with no prob. Soooo I'd prolly have to change the converter also. Soo looks like I ain't drivin to the track. Sorry for the hijack
 
:hijacked: Lurking in the background here reading this post, thinking as it goes along I'm pretty much phucked.. I'd like to drive the car to the track, 1 1/4-1 1/2 hr. each way at 65. At that speed Im turning 3500 rpm. Have a 440 30 ovr 727/redwood clutches, b&m streetfighter w/3500 stall, seperate trans cooler, 750 holley w/street dominator, kb flat tops, pretty serious cam. (don't know specs, dont know anything bout heads/valves etc) Got it this way. Previous owner no help he got it that way. He didn't build it. Supposedly runs in the 11's. Wanted to change rear to 3:55's to run a little lower revs on hiway. I don't have any lack of low end. Have 275/60/15's in the rear, can smoke them for 150' break em loose with a stab at 35 mph with no prob. Soooo I'd prolly have to change the converter also. Soo looks like I ain't drivin to the track. Sorry for the hijack

Then don't drive at 65 MPH. Go slower.
 
Got it sorted out now, Cam, Stall Convertor and rear gear go together. Decide on the highway RPM i want to cruise at and choose a cam and stall combo to suit. Or choose a rear gear ratio to suit the cam, stall, tyre height and highway cruise speed. It's all much clearer now.

I just measured my tire height with a tape measure.

Thanks for all the comments.
 
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So the next question is about convertors. I just watched a video about convertor selection. They suggested to choose a stall speed 500 rpm above cam start range and that BBs stall roughly 300 rpm higher because of more torque produced. So if my cam start range is 2600rpm, I will choose a 3000 rpm stall. Then the full lock up of the stall will be 2900 or 3300 rpm? So then do i choose a 3500 rpm stall convertor? I need to understand all these things before cam, convertor and rear gear selection.
 
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