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Bad tipper

I call Bull$hit on auto tipping! Servers should get a wage just like anyone else. A tip should be extra for GOOD service! If your service sucks why should i be obliged to give you a tip. I'll give ya a tip, if you can't be a good server find a job where you can ask "do you want fries with that"
 
The problem is that the Scumbag said she got good service!
But even though he got good sevice she was obliged to pat for it. Why? she is a woman of god and there for exempt from paying her own way.
George Jones and Tammy Wynette did a song about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVJrkG4uU-g
 
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im sure this is the same man that stands at the pulpit begging his church goers for donations. my question is....if god is this high and almighty being....why does he need 10% ???? im sure the waitress could use the money alot more!
 
It was a party of 20. TWENTY, yet their bill was only 36 bucks. Bunch of cheap *** bastards. I leave 20% to all but the worst servers. I have left a nickle before, but I never leave nothing. Tey might think I forgot. I want them to know what their service was worth.
 
I have never been to a restaurant that didnt let you know up front, printed in the menu, that parties of a certain number of people would have a gratuity added to the bill. So for anyone to write such a thing is essentially asking why are you charging me 12 bucks for a burger when i only pay 8 to so and so down the street, after it has been ordered and eaten. They all knew the price up front. Shame on them
 
Why does she get 18% and god only 10%? Because god can't spit in your food.
 
what makes it worst is apparently (from what I read) the waitress got fired for going public about it, the Pastor (a female) demanded everyone at the restaurant be fired for embarrassing her. IMO the Pastor broke the contract and the waitress can do whatever.
BTW. I work as a bagger at our commissary on the military base, and for those that don't know we bag your groceries, take them to your car and load them into your car while you stand and watch us... and I tell you what the people with money are the worst tippers! Our old base commander would only tip the bagger a dollar no matter if he had 5 bags or 30 in the rain, snow didn't matter. Yet you'll have a random airman tip 20 bucks because his bill was $200. It just annoys me. And alot of us know the bad tippers and I wouldn't doubt some of us smash the bread and eggs lol. anyways rant over...

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im sure this is the same man that stands at the pulpit begging his church goers for donations. my question is....if god is this high and almighty being....why does he need 10% ???? im sure the waitress could use the money alot more!

There is a difference between the two as well. The pastor needs to understand that there is a difference between tithing to God and tipping.
It doesn't quite work that way. There are a ton of things that church's pay for and help out with that the money goes towards. In the Old Testament, God asks His people to give one-tenth of their earnings to Him. That statement is repeated in the New Testament as well.
Deuteronomy 14:22 is a good place to start.

The Pastor needs to get paid. Paper, Materials, heat, electricity, maintenance, copy machine, phones, janitor and janitor supplies, Up-keep of the building. People take for granted all that it takes to keep a building up and running so it is ready for them to use when they come in.

Besides, the truth is only about 20% of most church members actually tithe so their isn't as much money floating around as you may think. The typical church isn't a huge megaplex that often seen the most because of their size. The average church struggles to be able to pay it's Pastor a decent salary and keep the building running.
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How can a Pastor do the job for free? He/She usually has a family that needs to be fed and they have their own things that need to be paid for as well. It takes money to get educated to become a Pastor. Would you be willing to do your job for free?
 
Are they sure it wasnt a rabbis ?.. badump bump
 
Seems to me that the consumer there was just a cheap'o. I usually tip at least 20% when I have good service. 25% if they are exceptional. 15% if average, 10% if sub-par, and obviously 0% if they are just horrible.


As for a standard tip for large parties I understand that. When I was in the academy a bunch of us went out for a night on the town and ended up stopping at some place to eat. Had about 12-15 for the party. When the bill came it was a standard 18% tip added on. A lot of people there paid with cards from their sheriffs dept so they couldn't put the tip on there so the waitress was nice enough to remove the automatic tip from the bill. Because of that and the fact that we were pretty rowdy, most people left her at least $10, me and a couple others left $20's. Average cost of food their was maybe $10-12 for a meal. So because she was willing to work with us, she got some awesome tips out of it.
 
Funny that many people don't recognize a cause and effect thing going on. The people who are horrible tippers are usually the ones who say stuff like "that server wants a better tip, she's gotta work harder for it", or "if his tip was bad it was his fault", etc. All three of my kids worked as servers at one time or another, and believe me... they know who are. You want to know why you don't get the best service? Because they can spot you the moment you enter the door. Folks like you can always be consistent to find something to fault about anything, and it's not worth the server's time to give special attention to you when you'll just find something to grouse about and leave a crummy tip. Their time is better spent taking care of a customer who does value good service.

I'm a big tipper, usually in the 40%-60% range but I've gone to 100% before. When we walk into one of our regular places, we get smiles and hugs from every server there because they like folks like us coming in the door. Our every need it attended to quickly and correctly, and we never worry about our food not being right because the staff knows what we like and don't like and make sure the cooks do as well.

If I want to eat cheap, I can eat at home. If I dine out, it's because I want a better experience and it's like anything else in life... you get what you pay for.
 
Well, you see what happened now? Applebees fired the girl after the pastor called and complained. What a crock of ****.
 
Alright, this **** chaps my hide. From someone who works in the service industry (I own a catering company) I can say that we don't auto-tip and I find that the people who are most impressed with our food and all-around service tend to tip the least or not at all. I try to explain that we are a mobile restaurant and you probably still tip your zit-faced pizza guy. Anyways, I always feel like it should be up to the guest if they decide to tip on the service. I've never been a fan of the auto-tip system but the fact is that most restaurants do it for groups over 10. Here in B.C. we have a 13% sales tax, couple that with your 18% gratuity and and you're automatically adding over 30% to the price of everything on the menu. This pastor chick is out of line and I hope she feels some ramifications for being cheap cow with a God complex.
 
I too worked as a waiter for 2 yrs in 2 different restaurants while in college in the late 90's. I was very polite and upbeat and sometimes got behind, but most of my customers would understand, although some would not and were outright rude and demanding. One time I got so frustrated with one lady I told her she might have better luck down the street at Burger King. Almost got fired for that one! I think everyone should work that job for at least a week to see all of the crap that servers go through. Then you'll change your opinion on tipping. Sadly, most restaurants are only obligated to pay their servers and bartenders 1/2 of minimum wage. I think California may pay full minimum wage. So when I was a waiter in grad school in Birmingham, Alabama, I made a whopping $2.25/hr back in 1997. HELLO! With over 50% of the customers paying by credit card, guess what? The restaurant also makes the waiters pay the credit card service fees. They deduct it at the end of the night. So here's the range of pay I experienced as I worked my *** off with a smile 20-30 hrs a week and even received 3 offers of higher employment while there from people who wanted me to work as manager in their company:

Monday lunch rush at Olive Garden = 10 tables turned. After average of 0-10% tip minus ccard fees, I owed the restaurant $5!!! WTF??
Average wed. PM shift at Olive Garden = net of $60 for a 6 hr shift
Average weekend double shift at OG = net of $90 for total of 10hrs on the floor with a 90 min break
Average wed PM shift at R&K cajun Seafood (higher end place near airport) = net of $80 for 6 hr shift
Average weekend double shift at R&K = net of $120-$140 for 10 hr shift
Best case OCCASIONAL large party (20-30) lasting for entire 6 hr night shift = Immediate tip of $100 when the group leader walks in the door and tells me to "take care of us" + final tip of $120 against bill = $220

That being said - when I eat out I tip 30-50% for exceptional service and food, 15% for average service, and at least 5-10% even if service is bad, unless everyone is outright rude, which is very rare. Only once or twice have I left only a dollar or less when the food was bad AND it took a long time to come out AND the service was rude AND I decided I would never come back.

Rule of thumb is this! - if you plan on visiting a place MORE THAN ONCE, that goes for a restaurant, a barber, or a bar - tip your server! You don't want to be on the receiving end of bad food, bad drink, or a bad haircut. Believe me, the servers will remember your ***!

Rent the movie "Waiting" and watch it. It's like they went into one of those chain restaurants and filmed it on an average day. I swear most of it is sadly true.....not so at upper scale places, but watch out for those chains like OG, Red Lobster, Fudruckers....mostly decent food, but don't mess with them!!!

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Well, you see what happened now? Applebees fired the girl after the pastor called and complained. What a crock of ****.

yeah, that's B.S. A good manager will always stand behind their worker's judgment unless they violated company policy. The 18% is actually restaurant policy in most cases and not up to the server. Since the 18% policy for parties of 8 or more (in some restaurants it's 6) is usually listed on the receipt and also in the menu, the pastor was out of line. Just to play it safe, I would often inform the customers at the start of the meal that this is the policy since it's a large party. Then can choose to stay there or leave. I think the pastor was not surprised, but probably went in there looking to start something. Not very Christian-like if you ask me...
 
It is nice that we speak to each other.
Better if we let apple holes know how we feel and let them know that we will not darken thier door until justice is served and the waitperson is re hired .
I'll go first and shoot them an email :headbang:
 
We quit goin there years ago because of the type people who frequent them here.
 
I bagged groceries once...but I quit.
 
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