Considering buying this 1970 Super Bee. Talk me out of it.

[DynaBro]

Maybe a knowledgeable FBBO member can look the car over for you?

That would be a serious favor I'd owe someone for.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Maybe a knowledgeable FBBO member can look the car over for you?

That would be a serious favor I'd owe someone for.

Stop yapping about it late at night here and just get in touch with the seller and take a drive out there & back this weekend to see it with your own eyes. Yeah, it's a drive, but if you put in 150-200 miles on Friday evening, you'll get there early Saturday afternoon. Look the car over & start back Saturday evening & you'll be back on Sunday afternoon. All it'll cost you is a couple nights in a hotel, gas & cheap eats.


10 hr 19 min (675.7 mi) via I-94 E and I-80 E/I-90 E

 

[68BabyBlue]

Stop yapping about it late at night here and just get in touch with the seller and take a drive out there & back this weekend to see it with your own eyes. Yeah, it's a drive, but if you put in 150-200 miles on Friday evening, you'll get there early Saturday afternoon. Look the car over & start back Saturday evening & you'll be back on Sunday afternoon. All it'll cost you is a couple nights in a hotel, gas & cheap eats.


10 hr 19 min (675.7 mi) via I-94 E and I-80 E/I-90 E
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I did almost the same drive in 2015 to look at a GTX. Gas, cheap eats, and a Quality Inn. Money well spent. Didn’t buy the car. Asking price dropped 15k a few months later.

 

[moparedtn]

For whatever it means, the listing has been ended.

 

[toolmanmike]

Talk you out of it? First, it looks like a big pumpkin. Orange with a black to will do that. Second, it's a 70 Bee. The face only a mother could love. All that being said, It's a Mopar B body car with a 4 speed and a big block under the hood. It checks a lot of boxes. What's not to like. Got it bought yet?

 

[Richard Cranium]

Second, it's a 70 Bee. The face only a mother could love.

A blind mother to boot.

 

[SlingLow]

That would be a serious favor I'd owe someone for.

If I looked at it for you it would be because I could, and because I wanted to help you out, not to create a debt. But you would only hear what I see - not the same. We all look at cars differently.

 

[68BabyBlue]

If I looked at it for you it would be because I could, and because I wanted to help you out, not to create a debt. But you would only hear what I see - not the same. We all look at cars differently.

Condition can be extremely subjective. Eye of the beholder, etc. Some things are more objective. There were three deal breakers combined when I rejected the GTX I inspected in 2015. The car was decent, but IMO overpriced. Clean California body, but it had been in a garage scrape type mishap, and the entire right side dropped a magnet. The seller flat out lied about having a broadcast sheet, and factory A/C blowing cold. After the A/C blew hot air, I left. A fitting metaphor for the deal.

 

[SlingLow]

Condition can be extremely subjective. Eye of the beholder, etc. Some things are more objective. There were three deal breakers combined when I rejected the GTX I inspected in 2015. The car was decent, but IMO overpriced. Clean California body, but it had been in a garage scrape type mishap, and the entire right side dropped a magnet. The seller flat out lied about having a broadcast sheet, and factory A/C blowing cold. After the A/C blew hot air, I left. A fitting metaphor for the deal.

I've come home with an empty trailer at least 5 times. Eastern Washington, Olympia, Seattle area, Skagit Valley and Southern Oregon. You'll never get the complete picture through photos and conversation. The interesting thing is, I usually know that I'm not going to buy it from 40 feet away. The exception to that was rot underneath. That one was on a rack when I got there as the seller wanted complete disclosure. Some find it difficult to walk away from a deal after travelling, but it beats the alternative!

 

[68BabyBlue]

I've come home with an empty trailer at least 5 times. Eastern Washington, Olympia, Seattle area, Skagit Valley and Southern Oregon. You'll never get the complete picture through photos and conversation. The interesting thing is, I usually know that I'm not going to buy it from 40 feet away. The exception to that was rot underneath. That one was on a rack when I got there as the seller wanted complete disclosure. Some find it difficult to walk away from a deal after travelling, but it beats the alternative!

After seeing your experience, I feel like the luckiest Mopar guy on earth! The 2015 car was the only one I've ever rejected, and it still looked good from five feet away, and super clean underneath. But seller promised a paper trail that never materialized. All the others were driven home, I've never used a trailer or shipped. What all my seven GTXs have had in common, is documented, long term ownership, at least somewhere in the timeline. I bought the A33 car from a flipper, but he had extensive paperwork from the previous 40 years of ownership, and help from one of the top Mopar guys in the mid west when he restored the car. With my experience as a lawyer, I place way more than typical emphasis on documents.

 

[DynaBro]

I am just entering the drywalling stage of building a house right now and do not have a weekend of drive time to spare, as my house already sold and I have to be out by mid Oct. The new build has to be 100% completed before we are allowed to occupy it by law so I cannot even store things in the new garage and stay in an air bnb if the house is not ready by the date I have to turn over these keys. Otherwise I would have gone visit my Indiana family and taken a trip to see this car already. I'm what you might call run ragged right now. I even had to quit my volunteer coaching position to try to get things on track, as the early part of the build season was constant heavy rain and we got a very late start. The other option of flying out and storing it at my brother's until my garage is ready hit a snag when I realized you can't fly with that much cash. Plus he rents his house as an air bnb during ND home games and I'm not comfortable with the car being accessible to people partying. Keys or no keys it would be too much of a temptation to molest. DeltaV did scare the hell out of me with his list though critiquing all of the body panel fitting. If he's right that indicates serious restoration.

 

[eldubb440]

if you buy that car without seeing it in person, you are not going to be happy......... it sounds like bad timing anyway.

pretend you never saw it, and deal with your current situation.

you did say "talk me out of it"; there will be others

 

[DynaBro]

if you buy that car without seeing it in person, you are not going to be happy......... it sounds like bad timing anyway.

pretend you never saw it, and deal with your current situation.

you did say "talk me out of it"; there will be others

I won't. Still hoping someone lives nearby that can take a look at it before I can. I got lucky and found honest people online who knew about that TX V Code that saved my *** on that one. I'm still wondering if it wasn't well worth the 55K he had it listed at at the end though. It certainly isn't worth what High Octane want! Must forget.....

 

[moparvinson]

They just posted this one in albuquerque. Price is not bad and says matching numbers.

 

[chargervert]

A blind mother to boot.

My mom was blind and she chose a 70 Charger R/T SE over a Super Bee.

 

[RemCharger]

^^^ very rare triple green

 

[chargervert]

My moms Charger R/T SE was also that very rare triple green!

 

[DynaBro]

Anything but the triple green.

 

[YY1]

...and here I was hoping this thread would be littered with cheaper, better condition 70 Bees from all over the country, including close to me.

 

[DeltaV]

I'm still wondering if it wasn't well worth the 55K he had it listed at at the end though.

No way!