• When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.

Correct ballast resistor for standard to electronic conversion

Thanks, that was a good read.

So, I could use both of them.
Coil has 0.7 ohm
With the 0.8 resistor I would be at 1.5 total which is the minimum.
With the 1.5 resistor I would be at 2.2 total which is below the recommended maximum for the ECU. (2.3)

I will go with the 1.5 resistor and start from there.
 
It will be the higher revs that will be affected if it is a stock ecu.
 
My ECU is a orange box, rated at 6000 rpm, it says "replaces Chrysler product 36569004111850"

Side note: My coil when it ran with my old point style ignition ran with a 2.7 Ohms ballast resistor.
(Take that value with a grain of salt as the ballast is pretty beat up.)
 
"Replaces" are aftermarket boxes. Like a box of chocolates there not getting into it here.
 
I just hit up a friend that has a ton of MP books to see what he has on this.
 
upload_2020-8-21_7-55-5-png.1715581636
 
Yes they do as far as I know. Pretty cool little tester, just pricey with all the cables so not for the usual guy to have for one item. It can even run on 12V for testing on the car. Will get some pictures later today of different faults. Best is so you can see when the ground is bad and how important it is.

If the ground is bad , or say intermittent

Will the car still start and run ?

Another words , you know the ground is good where the box attaches to firewall thru bolts
Car starts , idles , runs

What causes these 4,500/5,000 RPM misses

I have a Mopar chrome box apart right now , taking my ohm tester to the board
 
I know that list. But is not expreselly exposed anywhere on sales catalogs to guide to the buyer

View attachment 991620 Funny you mention that I forgot I had this gem and it can only run right with a .25 ohm ballast.
View attachment 991617 View attachment 991618 View attachment 991619

And actually made in USA in 2010!

3 of those burnt in two years in a row on my car ( those exactly ). With blaster II Chromed coil and dual ballast resistor, I think .5 ohms primary, can't recall ( quite often, the MSD .8 single resistor just trying to finding some difference). Why dual ballast ? Because as mentioned... NOWHERE says EXPRESSELY AND PUBLICLY it must get X or Y resistor when buying.

Can't say they got damaged by an "incorrect" ballast. I found the transistor went bad.
 
Last edited:
I know that list. But is not expreselly exposed anywhere on sales catalogs to guide to the buyer



3 of those burnt in two years in a row on my car ( those exactly ). With blaster II Chromed coil and dual ballast resistor, I think .5 ohms primary, can't recall ( quite often, the MSD .8 single resistor just trying to finding some difference). Why dual ballast ? Because as mentioned... NOWHERE says EXPRESSELY AND PUBLICLY it must get X or Y resistor when buying.

Can't say they got damaged by an "incorrect" ballast. I found the transistor went bad.
They should have it on the packaging at least.
 
actually just one of them was new on box. The other two were ( barelly ) used. But no instructions sheets on the one with the box
 
No its leaking, time to swap it out. The petronix conversions are screwy also some instructions say no ballast, some say yes. I have never used one with them. Who knows?
What I figured. Does the oil indicate I'm not running enough resistance in the ballast and I've
"cooked" the coil? This crap is all confusing as hell, what with all the sources of info saying different
things (as well as MSD and Mopar themselves!).
I guess to be safe I should just run a 1.5ohm ballast and the heck with less spark?
 
I Honestly don't have a answer to that one. I bet I know who does though let me see if he can get into this thread. A FABO guy MATTAX
 
mattax... great guy... he is on Moparts too. He used my post from dc.com about the ammeter setup and wiring upgrade to support his own website
 
Smart guy I personally know him. He will chime in later today.
 
I saved this from Rick E many moons ago

This question has been around for decades in various forms. I'll try to clarify the fog surrounding it.

When cranking an engine, especially at lower temperatures, the starter imposes so much load on the battery that the voltage drops (as low as 8 to 9 volts). This reduced potential (voltage, E), would reduce the ignition system's spark output and make cold starting difficult. In a nutshell, what the factory did was to design the ignition system (breaker points and electronic) to produce full output at this reduced cranking voltage. Then, under normal running conditions, a resistor is used to reduce the voltage to the design point. This is why there's two different ignition wires (and switch terminals), "start" and "run" (or "ign 1" and "ign 2").

Bypassing the ballast resistor will overtax all ignition components: ECU / breaker points and ignition coil), increasing the spark energy (output) while reducing their reliability markedly.

Factory hi-po ECUs ("gold box", etc.) were designed for race use and used lower-resistance ballasts, their internal components and heat sinking were designed for this, still, they were never recommended for street use / idle.

Little, if any, of the above applies to aftermarket ignition systems and/or components. Many are designed to run on full battery potential; they have either internal regulators or dc-to-dc converters. Even with a factory OEM ECU, if your replacement coil has higher internal resistance than the OEM 1.4 to 1.8 ohm value, you might be able to safely reduce the ballast's value.

Do not lose sight of this fact: If there's no misfiring (at any useable RPM) in your present configuration, no ignition system swap or upgrade will increase output. EG: I witnessed a factory engine dyno session (Chrys.) where the subject engine produced over 150 HP/L on dead-stock wasted-spark ignition (even wires, coil, etc.). All aftermarket systems tried produced zero gains.

Hope this helps,

Rick E.
 
Now to get really confusing. Thanks Matt
ecuII.jpg
ecuiv.JPG
ecuIII.JPG
 
per what I can read/understand there the ballast and coil combination with the ECU is more related about the RPM rate you will use it, and not really because will unmatch or not with the ECU ( but still must be considered when matching your combo )
 
In reality - This is all great information and nice to read

Problem is , none of these Mopar ECUs are made anymore , and even the ones that where made the last ten/fifteen years where at best poor quality

Part I struggle with , is trying to match up all this Chinese junk today , mostly Coils/ECUs and put a decent system together with mismatched components that actually performs

Obviously FBO is very direct on his ECU and matching components

Rev n nator hasnt made an ECU in years

All this jobber parts , for me anyways , has been nothing but crap for anything over 5,000 RPMs

Rick E HIREV gives some sense of direction , doesn't necessarily pinpoint a specific coil though

Oil Filled canister coils that are all made overseas and slapped on with some kind of fancy sticker and sold at a higher price
 
Rick E HIREV gives some sense of direction , doesn't necessarily pinpoint a specific coil though
I did not save the instruction sheet that came with it, but I think it said to use a standard oil filled coil, if I remember correctly.
 
Problem is , none of these Mopar ECUs are made anymore , and even the ones that where made the last ten/fifteen years where at best poor quality

Part I struggle with , is trying to match up all this Chinese junk today , mostly Coils/ECUs and put a decent system together with mismatched components that actually performs


Totally agree all the newer stuff sucks for sure. I try to keep the older nos/nors parts down to a decent price when I find it but it is getting really rare and the new stuff absolutely sucks.
 
Auto Transport Service
Back
Top