mopar4don
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Thanks Chris, I know how that goes! Did you ever get that firewall installed or fixed?
Don's 1969 Charger Restoration
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mopar4don
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So after posting questions in the paint and body threads I thought I should update this thread and combine those links back into this main thread.
Most of the following issues have not been resolved but I am still working on them when I can. IF anyone has some advice please comment.
11/20/20 - 3/1/21 Advice needed on 69 Charger rear body panel assembly
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopa...n-69-charger-rear-body-panel-assembly.206444/
This started out looking for advice on how to get the panels aligned with good gaps.
I found out that I needed to lengthen my deck filler panel by 1/8 per side.
This resulted in a warpage problem that I didn't have the patients to fix
SO I ORDERED A NEW ONE (STILL NOT RESOLVED)
1/20/21 - 2/21/21 69 Charger full quarter install at rear window?
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopa...r-full-quarter-install-at-rear-window.210766/
not sure if my opening is to big? (STILL NOT RESOLVED)
1/25/21 - 1/26/21 Has the 69 Charger AMD deck filler panel stamping been fixed yet?
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopa...-filler-panel-stamping-been-fixed-yet.211146/
before I buy a new one I was looking for feed back on if it has been fixed
IT HAS NOT BEEN FIXED! BUT IT DOES SEEM TO WORK
(STILL NOT RESOLVED)
1/6/21 - 1/11/21 Cowl Prep
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/cowl-prep.209773/
should it be seam sealed and undercoated?
DONE
2/14/21 - 2/22/21
69 Charger wiper pivots in cowl
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/69-charger-wiper-pivots-in-cowl.212594/
THIS HAS BEEN FIXED
Most of the following issues have not been resolved but I am still working on them when I can. IF anyone has some advice please comment.
11/20/20 - 3/1/21 Advice needed on 69 Charger rear body panel assembly
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopa...n-69-charger-rear-body-panel-assembly.206444/
This started out looking for advice on how to get the panels aligned with good gaps.
I found out that I needed to lengthen my deck filler panel by 1/8 per side.
This resulted in a warpage problem that I didn't have the patients to fix
SO I ORDERED A NEW ONE (STILL NOT RESOLVED)
1/20/21 - 2/21/21 69 Charger full quarter install at rear window?
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopa...r-full-quarter-install-at-rear-window.210766/
not sure if my opening is to big? (STILL NOT RESOLVED)
1/25/21 - 1/26/21 Has the 69 Charger AMD deck filler panel stamping been fixed yet?
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopa...-filler-panel-stamping-been-fixed-yet.211146/
before I buy a new one I was looking for feed back on if it has been fixed
IT HAS NOT BEEN FIXED! BUT IT DOES SEEM TO WORK
(STILL NOT RESOLVED)
1/6/21 - 1/11/21 Cowl Prep
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/cowl-prep.209773/
should it be seam sealed and undercoated?
DONE
2/14/21 - 2/22/21
69 Charger wiper pivots in cowl
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/69-charger-wiper-pivots-in-cowl.212594/
THIS HAS BEEN FIXED
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mopar4don
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So while I have all of the panel fitment problems to address (from above) I needed to check the fitment of the AMD front valance.
I also need to weld the bolting flange to the fender.
So with the fenders on I gentle laid the valance in and immediately my heart drops!
The valance is hitting or interfering with the lower core support boxing mod I did.
AAAAAHH
1 step forward 2 steps back,
So the problem is that the edge of the valance hits the front of the boxed core support on the left and right sides where the core support curves upwards.
My solution is to slice the valance and bend it out of the way. Then the valance can slide into position.
This pic shows an original valance after I sliced and bent it so it could be positioned properly
Here you can see the two bent up areas that will let me slide it in over the boxed area
From the factory the valance slides in under the top edge of the core support.
A u-nut clip would be used and it would bolt up from under the core support lip.
But because of the mod I did, it will have to slide in on top of the core support.
I will use a rivet nut to bolt it from the top
Here you can see how the valance is sitting properly
Here is a side view of the problem
So here is the AMD valance in with the relief cuts.
kinda hard to see with everything black!
So compared to factory I will be out of position by the thickness of the core support........ Yeah I can live with that!
I also need to weld the bolting flange to the fender.
So with the fenders on I gentle laid the valance in and immediately my heart drops!
The valance is hitting or interfering with the lower core support boxing mod I did.
AAAAAHH
1 step forward 2 steps back,
So the problem is that the edge of the valance hits the front of the boxed core support on the left and right sides where the core support curves upwards.
My solution is to slice the valance and bend it out of the way. Then the valance can slide into position.
This pic shows an original valance after I sliced and bent it so it could be positioned properly
Here you can see the two bent up areas that will let me slide it in over the boxed area
From the factory the valance slides in under the top edge of the core support.
A u-nut clip would be used and it would bolt up from under the core support lip.
But because of the mod I did, it will have to slide in on top of the core support.
I will use a rivet nut to bolt it from the top
Here you can see how the valance is sitting properly
Here is a side view of the problem
So here is the AMD valance in with the relief cuts.
kinda hard to see with everything black!
So compared to factory I will be out of position by the thickness of the core support........ Yeah I can live with that!
mopar4don
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So way back on page 33 post number #657
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/dons-1969-charger-restoration.51122/page-33
You can see the flange that I never welded to the fender (the smaller piece)
Well now I need it on to fit the fenders to the valance.
So I welded it on (sorry this is the only pic I have) I was using that thick bar as a heat sink to keep everything straight and minimize warping
Here is that flange bolted up to the valance
In this pic you can see how the bolting flange of the valance doesn't line up to the flange from the fender
So I had to slice off the old and make a new flange
The other side was good
https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/dons-1969-charger-restoration.51122/page-33
You can see the flange that I never welded to the fender (the smaller piece)
Well now I need it on to fit the fenders to the valance.
So I welded it on (sorry this is the only pic I have) I was using that thick bar as a heat sink to keep everything straight and minimize warping
Here is that flange bolted up to the valance
In this pic you can see how the bolting flange of the valance doesn't line up to the flange from the fender
So I had to slice off the old and make a new flange
The other side was good
CHARGERSTEVEN
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I was in the same position as you on the front valance n was very disapointed with the fitment,i had to relocate a flange to line up to fender n also i used the centre mount from old valance to line up to the headlite n grillsupport
Personally I don't think you used enough clamps...
mopar4don
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Yeah I tried to out clamp you but.... NOPersonally I don't think you used enough clamps...
mopar4don
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I also rebuilt the rear window regulator assemblies
This is a before
The parts on the assembly table
Had to remove this roller
Took a punch and quick hammer strike pushed the pin out of the roller
A c-clamp pushed the new roller on
All done
This is a before
The parts on the assembly table
Had to remove this roller
Took a punch and quick hammer strike pushed the pin out of the roller
A c-clamp pushed the new roller on
All done
mopar4don
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The only problem or question I have is with this roller.
The original is on the left 2 new ones in the middle and right.
You can see how the new ones are longer than the original and the undercut groove is higher than the original so when you snap the retainer in there is about a 1/16 gap.
So that roller can move up and down by that gap amount.
Maybe it doesn't matter? Or do I need to put a washer in there?
The original is on the left 2 new ones in the middle and right.
You can see how the new ones are longer than the original and the undercut groove is higher than the original so when you snap the retainer in there is about a 1/16 gap.
So that roller can move up and down by that gap amount.
Maybe it doesn't matter? Or do I need to put a washer in there?
It's been a few years since I replaced the rollers on the Coronet, but your thread brings back memories. It's your attention to detail to the components that no one will ever see that sets your car apart. Very nice work.
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Nice Don.. you can never have enough clamps..
They did not even paint those at the factory. Good job. Yep I painted mine before putting them together.
After market are never the same.
Jarven1977
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Good progress here! Do you know of where to find any good info on restoring the regulators?
I have the bits and pieces but I'm dreading to start that work..
I have the bits and pieces but I'm dreading to start that work..
Jarven... it feels intimidating especially the rears because they're on three axis. Take pictures while its still in the car. You can spray the bolt holes with some rattle can paint to create witness marks; gives a good starting point when it comes time to reinstall.
And use the search function on this forum, lots of information posted by members during their restos.
mopar4don
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Jarvin, sorry I didn't see you question till now. Like CoronetDarter says take lots of pics, and with the aid of the search functions on this thread you should be able to find others who did this and showed much more detail. That's what I did. I believe dadsbee had good detail if I remember correctly.
Don all your hard work is starting to really pay off, as the body of the car is starting to really come together!
Yep lots of clamps. Not much room to weld in the seams near the rain gutter's. Got me a pinch welder from HB freight it worked grate. Also around the front window pinch weld.
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