My 1967 Belvedere Convertible Plans and Restoration (aka - Mad Scientist Build)

[hunt2elk]

looking good whats it like to move it on dirt with those casters

I was thinking the same thing - we might have to take up a kitty for a cement apron. Hate to see you stuck in the grass with your casters lol.

 

[conv67bdere]

looking good whats it like to move it on dirt with those casters

Hey Snakeyes . . . NOT TOO GOOD ! ! ! ( LMAO )

Doesn't help that it rained here this week and the ground is still pretty damp . . . they sunk in about an inch ! ! !

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I was thinking the same thing - we might have to take up a kitty for a cement apron. Hate to see you stuck in the grass with your casters lol.

Yeah hunt2elk - going to need to put more concrete down ( or make a bigger shop ! ) . . . Let's just say I had fun getting it back into the shop ! !

Car is looking much better especially since you got it some fresh air. Nice chance to clean up any spare scarps of undercoating and rust scale to put in those bags to him my 65 lbs LOL.Nice work brother

Yes indeed Tallhair - swept up the shop and put it all in the bags ! ! LMAO . . .

 

[Ron 73]

Your doing a great job on this ride man and yes, your welding skills are looking better every time ive seen a new place your repairing, i love the color on it now! This will be a sweet vert when you finish!! I love this picture, very nice indeed bud!!

 

[Ron 73]

Per your request bud, im going to weigh it in i think at 49 1/2 pounds! Lets see how close it is, sometimes this stuff can be tricky depending on just how much rust is in it lol. To be honest, im bad at guessing

 

[747mopar]

Hey Snakeyes . . . NOT TOO GOOD ! ! ! ( LMAO )

Doesn't help that it rained here this week and the ground is still pretty damp . . . they sunk in about an inch ! ! !

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Yeah hunt2elk - going to need to put more concrete down ( or make a bigger shop ! ) . . . Let's just say I had fun getting it back into the shop ! !




Yes indeed Tallhair - swept up the shop and put it all in the bags ! ! LMAO . . .

I feel bad for asking for those pics now "hope you didn't push it out just for that". It sure does look good thou.

 

[kb67mopar]

I feel bad for asking for those pics now "hope you didn't push it out just for that". It sure does look good thou.

He did...he is too nice not to acquiesce to your request....But its ok, he learned something new...

don't feel bad Larry. 100% of all of my work on my Coronet was done in my gravel driveway.

 

[tallhair]

I know what that's all about and most of us do kb! I was just over at the old homestead yesterday raking leaves and reliving a few memories of that rock driveway and the tree next to it that we used to pull engines while I raked.

And yes Larry is a hell of a nice guy

 

[conv67bdere]

I feel bad for asking for those pics now "hope you didn't push it out just for that". It sure does look good thou.

Of course I did 747Mopar . . . that's what friends are for ! ! ! ( smile )

But I also learn quite a bit in the process . . .
1 - even though you can pick up the front of the car, does not mean you can pic up the back of the car.
2 - it's a whole lot easier to sweep out the shop with the car removed
3 - a ragtop hanging from the ceiling lower then one's height is bound to be found ( KLUNK ! ) and it hurts too !
4 - pulling the car out of the shop is not the same as putting it the car back into the shop
5 - I love the new pictures I got of my car ( that I've never had before ). And now I can share them with the group.

Thanks for asking !

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He did...he is too nice not to acquiesce to your request....But its ok, he learned something new...

don't feel bad Larry. 100% of all of my work on my Coronet was done in my gravel driveway.

Thanks KB . . . are we talking about the same guy here ? ? ( smile ) Yes I learned a couple things ( see above )

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I know what that's all about and most of us do kb! I was just over at the old homestead yesterday raking leaves and reliving a few memories of that rock driveway and the tree next to it that we used to pull engines while I raked.

And yes Larry is a hell of a nice guy

Dang Tallhair . . . I better get to working on my character ! ! ! Are we sure this is the same guy ? ! ? ! ?

Thanks for the kind words guys ! ! !

 

[747mopar]

LOL, I promise no more request from the peanut section but agree "those pics were worth it". I know the feeling, we didn't always have a shop and used to work on them in the grass (a little more comfortable than gravel "wait" we didn't have gravel we had coal ashes). I will admit we always had the old Mineapolis Moline with the front end loader for engine removal or to push them over the hill when you had enough.

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If it makes you feel any better I took your request and posted some woodwork pics for you (older stuff) but all I had to do was walk around in my comfy home to get the pics haha. Hope you like

 

[conv67bdere]

Next question . . . pedal assembly . . .

My Belvedere was an original automatic car - and I'm converting it to a straight drive - so the pedal assembly needs to change.

What is the process for this ?

1 - Can I modify the current assembly ( I've got 2 new pedals - long story, the company thought they sold the assembly - I only got 2 pedals )

2 - Do I have to buy another pedal assembly from a B-body car and install it into my car ?

3 - Does any company sell a bolt in pedal assembly that will work for this car ?

ANY and ALL help and assistance would be most appreciated on this topic - thanks in advance ! !

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LOL, I promise no more request from the peanut section but agree "those pics were worth it". I know the feeling, we didn't always have a shop and used to work on them in the grass (a little more comfortable than gravel "wait" we didn't have gravel we had coal ashes). I will admit we always had the old Mineapolis Moline with the front end loader for engine removal or to push them over the hill when you had enough.

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If it makes you feel any better I took your request and posted some woodwork pics for you (older stuff) but all I had to do was walk around in my comfy home to get the pics haha. Hope you like

747Mopar - please ask away, had you not I would not have gotten the pictures I got ! ! ! It was nice to pull it out of the shop ! !

I saw the woodworking . . . you're as talented with the wood as you are with the car ! ! ! Thanks for sharing . . .

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Here you go . . . here's a couple projects of mine I can share with you . . .



On the left are some wood carvings, the golfer was for my late dad, and his wife gave it back to me on his passing last year.
The reindeer was carved from a picture that I saw in a newspaper advertisement.
Then there are 2 of my favorite wood turnings - one is glued up and turned, the other was a burl growing out of the side of a tree.
The burl has the most incredible grain structures in it ! ! !

On the right is a pair of pine shelves I made - they taper side to side and bottom to top. They turned out pretty cool ! !
( maybe some day I'll unpack or remove the box - which has wood working in it - from the shelves ! )

 

[tallhair]

my input in blue for what it's worth

My Belvedere was an original automatic car - and I'm converting it to a straight drive - so the pedal assembly needs to change.

What is the process for this ?

1 - Can I modify the current assembly ( I've got 2 new pedals - long story, the company thought they sold the assembly - I only got 2 pedals )

Can't help you on that one. if it was their mistake can you still return?

2 - Do I have to buy another pedal assembly from a B-body car and install it into my car ?

I would post up a wanted ad which you are kinda doing here for an original set .. I think I've seen some advertised in the ads

3 - Does any company sell a bolt in pedal assembly that will work for this car ?

Probably but I haven't looked .. it will be more expensive than original I imagine

 

[747mopar]

Really cool stuff, that glued turning looks pretty tricky and I love the burled bowl "super nice". I don't know that I could get the proportions right like you did on the golfer "I suck at making sculptures". Really nice work 67.

 

[Propwash]

Great thread you got going on here conv67bdere. Lotta great tech info. Keep up the good work!

 

[conv67bdere]

Pedal assembly - from auto to straight drive . . . maybe ? ?

So I think I've got some of this pedal assembly conversion figured out for my car. I've got a set of pedals, and an extra bracket, but no bolt ( I think it's called the kingpin ? ) to attach the pedals.

Here's how I think some of it works - the original assembly:



So the two bolts on the side of the assembly get removed . . . and the bracket . . .



And it reveals the nut that holds the auto brake pedal in place . . . remove the nut and lock washer . . .



and you have this configuration . . .



The new pedals, and bracket get put together something like this . . . odd thing, the diameter of the bolt ( kingpin ? ) is much smaller than in the original pedal.



Now I've got to try and track down a replacement bolt ( kingpin ) that has the correct diameter and length to hold it all together . . .

Now . . . that is going to be a whole lotta fun ? ? ?

And . . . I'm still missing all the linkages too . . . oh boy ! ! !

 

[747mopar]

I'll be taking note because the first upgrade my car will see is a 5 or 6 speed "you can figure it out for me".

 

[747mopar]

I just went back threw your thread and was ashamed to see that I never even saw the first couple pages. "Wow" nice job on the floor.

 

[tallhair]

Good luck buddy and hopefully some one can help you out with that bolt. Have you tried a google search to see if you can find someone else who maybe did a how to on this swap?

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I did a little searching and found this. Where did you get your pedals?

http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CP-ES&cat=212

http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CPK-B66&cat=212

I didn't find a 67 but here's a 66 FSM link which should be helpful for hte pedals http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/servicemanuals/1966_Plymouth_Service_Manual.zip

 

[conv67bdere]

I'll be taking note because the first upgrade my car will see is a 5 or 6 speed "you can figure it out for me".

Sounds good to me 747Mopar . . . I'm working on it and I'll get all the details figured out ( hopefully ) for you to do your swap !

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I just went back threw your thread and was ashamed to see that I never even saw the first couple pages. "Wow" nice job on the floor.

Thanks for the kind words 747Mopar . . . First time welding in floors, I'm pretty happy with them - and the frame connectors ! !

Going to get it figured out and learn on the "non-visible" stuff, so when I weld the quarters in, hopefully, they'll go a little smoother.

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Good luck buddy and hopefully some one can help you out with that bolt. Have you tried a google search to see if you can find someone else who maybe did a how to on this swap?

update

I did a little searching and found this. Where did you get your pedals?

http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CP-ES&cat=212

http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CPK-B66&cat=212


I didn't find a 67 but here's a 66 FSM link which should be helpful for hte pedals http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/servicemanuals/1966_Plymouth_Service_Manual.zip

WOW Tallhair . . . You might have found the bolt that I need - need to call and get the measurements on it. I got a set of pedals and a bracket, but it was suppose to be a full clutch/brake assembly from the pictures they sent to me when I ordered it. Turns out they don't sell the whole assembly - and they've credited me some of the cost since I only got pedals.

I ordered the Service Manual from Amazon Prime and I've been using it to investigate a bunch of stuff already. But I downloaded the 66 PDF version you gave me the link to and now have it on my computer ( just in case ). Thanks ! ! ! Whole lot cheaper than my version too.

I'm going to checking out Brewers Performance . . . looks like a neat place with cool stuff ! ! !

 

[tallhair]

Welcome brother and happy it was a help

 

[kb67mopar]

yeah that is a pretty long bolt you need there. I had the over center spring left over and some of that linkage but I think I sold it at a swap meet. I put a hydraulic setup in for my clutch and didn't need those parts.

Does your new clutch setup need the Z-bar, linkage rods etc? or is it a hydraulic setup with a master and slave cylinder? That would make a big difference in the volume of parts you will need to make it all work.

You may want to inventory what you have related to the clutch assembly from them and see what's left. If you need the Z-bar you may need to add the bracket on the frame rail it bolts to.