New 69 Charger Data decode

[gtx6970]

C5X is Cloth and Vinyl Bucket Seats in black

 

[Mheiron]

Owner thinks the black vinyl top is original.
the seat is a bench with console.
the pics are from the ad. I’m waiting for the transport to pick it up!

 

[Mheiron]

Nope, bucket seats. Owner thinks it has the original 383.

 

[Mheiron]

Engine and interior.

 

[Don67Satellite]

@Mheiron would love to see a closer view of that V1-code on the top line. That does not look like an "X" in the photo (compared to other X's in the tag), more like a "W".

In post #9, you'll get a full decode. It is a A41 White Hat Special, but those could also come with a black vinyl top with V1X.

However if that is a "W", then it started life with a white vinyl top. Nice car.

 

[R/T Boy 67]

I'm just throwing this out there. There have been many typos on fender tags,where the tag and broadcast sheet disagree. On one car, that I know the complete history of, the tag was wrong.

 

[66Hemi]

Decent MOPAR references:
VIN Codes - Chrysler VIN Decoding, 1926 - 2005: Dodge, Plymouth...
Fender Tag Codes - Broadcast Vin Fender Tag Decoder for Mopar Dodge Chrysler Plymouth
Interior Trim Codes - http://starparts.chrysler.com/starlibrary/reference_docs/salescode.pdf

 

[Challenger340]

What a great looking Car....... I think you did very well !

 

[69ChargerR/TSE]

XP29:
Dodge Charger
Premium
2 Door Sports Hardtop

H9G: 383 330HP OR 335HP 1-4BBL 8 CYL
1969
St. Louis, MO, USA

283332: Sequence number

E63: 383 cid 4 barrel V8 High Performance
D32: Heavy Duty Automatic Transmission
T5: Copper Metallic (Dodge), Bronze Fire Metallic (Plymouth), Burnished Bronze Metallic (Chrysler) Exterior Color
T5: Trim - Unknown, Cloth/Vinyl Bucket Seats, Unknown Color
C5X: Charger, cloth/vinyl, Black
X9: Build Date: 9
605: June 5 1969

A01: Light Package
A41: 69 only White Hat Special w/vinyl roof
B51: Power Brakes
C21: Center Front Seat Cushion
C55: Bucket Seats
G33: LH Remote Racing Mirror

H51: Air Conditioning with Heater
L31: Hood/Fender Mounted Turn Signals
M21: Roof drip rail moldings
N88: Auto Speed Control
P31: Power Windows

R11: Radio Solid State AM (2 Watts)
V1W: Full Vinyl Top, White
26: 26in Radiator
END: End of Sales Codes

Bought this car today in Oregon. Haven’t got it home yet but will post photos when I get it here.

regarding this dataplate, a couple codes I don’t see in the book:

View attachment 1357152
R11=AM radio
V1X (?) = Black Vinyl Roof
26 = Rad size
H51 = AC
L31 = Hood turn lamps
M21 = Roof Drip Moldings
M31 = Belt moldings
N88 = cruise control
P31 = Power Windows
A01 = light package
A41 = White hat special
B51 = Power Brakes
C21 = Front Center armrest
C55 = ?
G33 = LH mirror
T5 = paint codes
C5X = Black seat, carpet and door panels
X9 =?
E63 = 383 4-bbl
D32 = Auto trans
H9G =
Thanks in advance for any ideas !

XP29:
Dodge Charger
Premium
2 Door Sports Hardtop

H9G: 383 330HP OR 335HP 1-4BBL 8 CYL
1969
St. Louis, MO, USA

283332: Sequence number

E63: 383 ci 4 barrel V8 High Performance
D32: Heavy Duty 727 Automatic Transmission
T5: Copper Metallic (Dodge), Exterior Color
T5: (Duplicate code error)
C5X: Trim - Charger, Cloth/Vinyl Bucket Seats, Black
X9: Black (Dodge), Int. Door Frames
605: Build Date: June 05, 1969
147316: Order number

A01: Light Package, Hood signals, map light, trunk light, ignition light w/delay, glove box light, dome light, ash tray light,
A41: 69 only White Hat Special w/vinyl roof
B51: Power Brakes
C21: Center Front Seat Cushion
C55: Bucket Seats
G33: LH Remote Mirror

H51: Air Conditioning with Heater
L31: Hood Mounted Turn Signals
M21: Roof drip rail moldings
N88: Auto Speed Control
P31: Power Windows

R11: Radio Solid State AM (2 Watts)
V1W: Full Vinyl Top, White
26: 26in Radiator
END: End of Sales Codes

 

[Mheiron]

Car got here late last night. It’s rainy in Texas today so haven’t tried to take new photos.
Drove it a few miles in the dark and it seems to go down the road OK.
The build sheet was in the trunk. Carefully stowed But still pretty rough.

 

[69ChargerR/TSE]

Can't zoom in on the photos

 

[Nxcoupe]

Congrats! I can zoom in easily.

 

[69Coronetrt]

@Mheiron

XP29:
Dodge Charger
Premium
2 Door Sports Hardtop

H9G: 383 330HP OR 335HP 1-4BBL 8 CYL
1969
St. Louis, MO, USA

283332: Sequence number

E63: 383 cid 4 barrel V8 High Performance
D32: Heavy Duty Automatic Transmission
T5: Copper Metallic (Dodge), Bronze Fire Metallic (Plymouth), Burnished Bronze Metallic (Chrysler) Exterior Color
C5X: Trim - Charger, Cloth/Vinyl Bucket Seats, Black
X9: Black (Dodge), Black Velvet (Plymouth), Formal Black (Chrysler & Imperial) Int. Door Frames
605: Build Date: June 05
147316: Order number


A01: Light Package
A41: 69 only White Hat Special w/vinyl roof
B51: Power Brakes
C21: Center Front Seat Cushion
C55: Bucket Seats
G33: LH Remote Racing Mirror

H51: Air Conditioning with Heater
L31: Hood/Fender Mounted Turn Signals
M21: Roof drip rail moldings
M31: Belt Moldings
N88: Auto Speed Control
P31: Power Windows

R11: Radio Solid State AM (2 Watts)
V1W: Full Vinyl Top, White
26: 26in Radiator
END: End of Sales Codes

H9G: 383 330HP OR 335HP 1-4BBL 8 CYL E63 on the tag and H in the VIN only equals 383-4. It doesn't tell us which assembly the car got. 1969 Chargers with automatics got the turquoise 330 horse version and there is no orange 335 horse assembly with A/C in '69. The 330 horse assembly is confirmed by the 899 engine assembly code on the BS. Online decoders are incapable off making these types of distinctions.

605 is the scheduled production date and unlikely it is the actual production date. BS indicates the car was built 'late'.

 

[69Coronetrt]

Thanks for the response, so if that's the case, why do they repeat the T5? I'm very curious.

St.Louis plant coded both colors whether the car had a vinyl top or not. Hamtrack cars drop the top color from the tag if the car had a vinyl top.

The difference is simply a coding nuance. St. Louis plant even coded two colors on convertibles.

 

[69Coronetrt]

@Mheiron would love to see a closer view of that V1-code on the top line. That does not look like an "X" in the photo (compared to other X's in the tag), more like a "W".

In post #9, you'll get a full decode. It is a A41 White Hat Special, but those could also come with a black vinyl top with V1X.

However if that is a "W", then it started life with a white vinyl top. Nice car.

BS shows it's a W

 

[MarkLevi]

Online decoders are incapable off making these types of distinctions

In this particular case, an on-line should be able to "if-then-else" the H51 to kick out the possibility of an orange 335, but true - most can't/don't.

M

 

[Don67Satellite]

H9G: 383 330HP OR 335HP 1-4BBL 8 CYL E63 on the tag and H in the VIN only equals 383-4. It doesn't tell us which assembly the car got. 1969 Chargers with automatics got the turquoise 330 horse version and there is no orange 335 horse assembly with A/C in '69. The 330 horse assembly is confirmed by the 899 engine assembly code on the BS. Online decoders are incapable off making these types of distinctions.

605 is the scheduled production date and unlikely it is the actual production date. BS indicates the car was built 'late'.

I just use the decoder to help people here with a basic tag decode. It gets the basics correct.

I didn't make the decoder, maybe you should send them an email with your thoughts.

 

[69Coronetrt]

In this particular case, an on-line should be able to "if-then-else" the H51 to kick out the possibility of an orange 335, but true - most can't/don't.

M

On line decoders are broad based simple input/output with no logical if/then, and/or or critical thinking. It's not their function to offer context or variations between years.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Bought this car today in Oregon. Haven’t got it home yet but will post photos when I get it here.

regarding this dataplate, a couple codes I don’t see in the book:

View attachment 1357152
R11=AM radio
V1X (?) = Black Vinyl Roof
26 = Rad size
H51 = AC
L31 = Hood turn lamps
M21 = Roof Drip Moldings
M31 = Belt moldings
N88 = cruise control
P31 = Power Windows
A01 = light package
A41 = White hat special
B51 = Power Brakes
C21 = Front Center armrest
C55 = ?
G33 = LH mirror
T5 = paint codes
C5X = Black seat, carpet and door panels
X9 =?
E63 = 383 4-bbl
D32 = Auto trans
H9G =
Thanks in advance for any ideas !

It's been a month already, where's the pictures?

 

[Mheiron]

I’ve been busy and finally remembered to post more photo.
I changed out the 4:11 ring and pinion for 3:25. I also swapped to Green axle bearings and rebuilt / turned the rear brakes.
The newredline tires are at the shop and will get installed this weeken hopefully.