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Radiator Troubles.....US Radiator.

My OE 054 radiator was recored by US radiator before owner Don Armstrong retired and sold the company. It's one of the best parts of the car.
 
As others have suggested, consider GLEN RAY RADIATORS. I purchased the OEM MAX COOLING RADIATOR # 2998956 (more tubes, bigger tubes and more fins/inch) that Bob offers. All brass and soldered construction, guaranteed for as long as you own the car. I use a 50%/50% DEXCOOL water mix with a16# cap. The radiator cost ~ $ 1400 + shipping (approximately $40 to Decatur illinois). The cooling system is NOT the area to try and reduce costs. The car is an original RS23V0A****** an original 1970 GTX six barrel, car 4 speed car. Just quit fiddling ******* around and do it right the FIRST TIME. Use a Flowkooler pump, shroud, and #2806070 TORQUE DRIVE CLUTCH and 7 blade fan. My temps run ~ 185°F (normal operation) to 200°F (with a 100°F ambient day) with a 180°F hi flow thermostat. IF YOU CANNOT afford the $1400 price save your money until you can afford the price for admission....do it right....just my opinion of course.......
BOB RENTON
 
Everyone here seems to jump to that, but there are still old school radiator shops out there that can recore and OE radiator just a well. Bob's got a shop, he just needs to find an old OE radiator for the next round to have it recored. Cores are still obtainable. I highly doubt GlenRay is making their own cores.
Fewer and fewer each year, unfortunately. I had a guy in N KY that recorded my 62 radiator back in 04ish. Still going strong. He is now out of business.
 
Fewer and fewer each year, unfortunately. I had a guy in N KY that recorded my 62 radiator back in 04ish. Still going strong. He is now out of business.
Yep, like I said my shop just down the road will be done on repairs when the Father stops "wanting something to do". He's now about 77 years old.
 
Fewer and fewer each year, unfortunately. I had a guy in N KY that recorded my 62 radiator back in 04ish. Still going strong. He is now out of business.
And with fewer shops, they get more expensive. I spent $300 to re-core the original in Baby Blue in 2013, it was $800 to do the current GTX last year.
 
Everyone here seems to jump to that, but there are still old school radiator shops out there that can recore and OE radiator just a well. Bob's got a shop, he just needs to find an old OE radiator for the next round to have it recored. Cores are still obtainable. I highly doubt GlenRay is making their own cores.
Yes, there are still some old school shops around to do radiator work. Yes Glen-Ray does not make their own cores, but Bob does spec the type of cores he has built for himself. Remember there is a difference between a $400 recore and a $1400 restoration of a radiator. The cheap recore means the guy doing it is working for next to nothing and using the CHEAPEST core he can find because he thinks he is doing you a favor, which lots of times turns out to not be such a favor after all. I understand not everyone has a caviar budget also. Bob does stock some used radiators to restore for customers but most of his work is restoring a customer's existing rads and new reproduction units also. Even if you aren't in the market for a Glen-Ray rad Bob will also answer heating and cooling questions too.
 
Yes, there are still some old school shops around to do radiator work. Yes Glen-Ray does not make their own cores, but Bob does spec the type of cores he has built for himself. Remember there is a difference between a $400 recore and a $1400 restoration of a radiator. The cheap recore means the guy doing it is working for next to nothing and using the CHEAPEST core he can find because he thinks he is doing you a favor, which lots of times turns out to not be such a favor after all. I understand not everyone has a caviar budget also. Bob does stock some used radiators to restore for customers but most of his work is restoring a customer's existing rads and new reproduction units also. Even if you aren't in the market for a Glen-Ray rad Bob will also answer heating and cooling questions too.
My guys $400 job, 6 years later.
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My guys $400 job, 6 years later.
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I'm was going to ask: how do we know it's your car? When was the last time the factory gauge was calibrated against what standard? Or is this a simulated instrument panel setup?.......but, instead, I won't say anything .......just my opinion......of course.....
BOB RENTON
 
Just checked with a reputable 'local' shop, $750-850. Not bad I guess but they warned me that a lot of the older radiator tanks won't hold sufficient pressure anymore. So called Glen Ray next, really great to talk to, and got a very good feeling about choosing one of their 'Max Cool' reproduction radiators. More expensive no doubt, but a stellar American Made product.
 
Past your nap time Bob, take your BS somewhere else.
But you DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS POSED......and that's astandard B.S. answer to a question you cannot answer or not know the answer....it's called "tap dancing".....90+% of the subscribers will believe in the example.....just answer the question...and if you don't know, just say you don't know......it's that's simple......
BOB RENTON
 
But you DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS POSED......and that's astandard B.S. answer to a question you cannot answer or not know the answer....it's called "tap dancing".....90+% of the subscribers will believe in the example.....just answer the question...and if you don't know, just say you don't know......it's that's simple......
BOB RENTON

You said you were going to ask but wouldn't, yet you filled in the space in between with your narcissist bs instead. Maybe if you'd actually participated around here, instead of always being a dick, you'd know that picture was from a 100 mile drive on Sunday, taken about 45 miles in. I actually drive my cars, show pictures of them, post detailed restoration threads on them. Unlike you, that I'm fairly sure we've never seen a single picture of your car.
 
My OE 054 radiator was recored by US radiator before owner Don Armstrong retired and sold the company. It's one of the best parts of the car.
Do you remember when that was, I know a couple of friends that bought u.s. radiators, had no problems.

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I bought a US Radiator aluminum desert cooler radiator for the GTX a while back. Sent it right back to Summit. It looked like they took a smooth top tank and beat on it with hammer to make it resemble a stamped factory style radiator tank. It was pretty bad.
 
My problem with u.s. radiator wasn't that I thought the components were bad. For me it was simply poor workmanship in assembly. I have seen were u.s. radiator does have a plant in Alabama now. I've wondered if that would be a step forward vs California assembly?
 
I installed a Cold Case radiator in the Cuda about 2 years ago. It looks good and cools well but the factory shroud they suggested wouldn't fit and was almost impossible to find and very expensive and the alignment of the mounting tabs was off. Same with Champion

I've never heard of an aftermarket rad that looks good, bolts right to the rad support, that the shroud bolts on without mods and cools well.
 
When I bought my car, it had everything wrong with the coolant system and was overheating badly.
Wrong size and model radiator, no fan shroud, no clutch fan, water pump bad, hoses old and brittle, wrong thermostat, etc....

I worked for months to get it back together, and one of the parts I bought was a 26" US Radiator, top of the line Brass and Copper unit.
Well...it's 4 years old now, and it's out of my car again for the 3rd time to get another leak fixed in the core.
First couple of times, it was the upper and lower tanks leaking.

I took it Monday to an old school radiator shop here in Orange CA, Tom's Radiator, in business since 1965.
When he looked at the US Radiator sticker on the unit, he knew right away it was going to be a problem.
He told me they changed ownership years ago, and quality suffered as a result.
He's seen less than year old radiators from them leaking.
Pretty sure it's in good hands now, and I hope I'm not out too much $$$ to get in back in shape again for a long time.

US Radiator used to be the go to place for radiators and I've owned several over the years.
Not so fast now pal.

Anyone else had the same problems with US Radiator recently ??
I wish I would have know this before I gave up a lot of cash for one of these...
Thanks for reading everyone.
not an original product , but I`ve had a griffin 29x19 alum. rad in my 68 fastback for about (I forget how long) , I accidently pulled the floor jack out from under the car while trying to move it sideways a little , back when I was first building it .
The jack ended up under the rad and front facia , bent the bottom of the rad up (bowed) at least an 1 1/2'' , I pressure tested it , and no leaks , it is still like that today , I posted pics a long while ago of it on here and a bodies both .= 505'' 68 fastback <> no leaks !! Cant go wrong with Griffin ...
 
You said you were going to ask but wouldn't, yet you filled in the space in between with your narcissist bs instead. Maybe if you'd actually participated around here, instead of always being a dick, you'd know that picture was from a 100 mile drive on Sunday, taken about 45 miles in. I actually drive my cars, show pictures of them, post detailed restoration threads on them. Unlike you, that I'm fairly sure we've never seen a single picture of your car.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING and expected response ....As I invited everyone, INCLUDING you, on the forum to view my photo garage of the '70 GTX. RJ's Toy. It's fairly well represented in pix, but PLEASE ask any questions about its restoration...I've owned the car for ~ 35 years....it includes engine rebuild....with clearance specs of pistons and rings in their assigned bores, Cleveite bearings by location..mains & rods by cylinder, MELLINGS HV oil pump, bolting torque on the bearings hardware (ARP stuff), Crane cam specs @ 4° retard, carb upgrade changes, cooling system improvement, dyno runs on the engine with EGT of each cylinder, and if you can understand the thermodynamic calculations of the heat gain/heat losses with velocity calcs, of the coolin system and gallons/minute flow (and its NOT BASED on TOTAL HP PRODUCED but on heat load in Btu/hr converted from the horse power produced at 100° ambient temp to determine reject heat load (80% hp to the dyno, 20% parasitic losses ..estimated incl reject heat load). I pay to have the professional machining work and checked by me to my specs, witnessed first run start up, transmission and Dana 60 and rebuild by ALLEN DRIVELINE, and using Timken tapered bearing axle bearings. All this info has been presented over the years, search for it if interested......oh...BTW....I still use the Prestolite Dual point distributor recurved, to my specs and not NGK spark plugs but Champion UJ-11G or HO-8A type. I invite you to send me a PM to discuss at your convenience ......
BOB RENTON
 
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