Ring/pinion pattern off...

[AR67GTX]

Yeah, I should have commented on checking the carrier ring gear flange out with a dial indicator before mounting the ring gear. If it isn’t real clean and flat then you will have nothing but trouble setting it up. I don’t remember exactly what the spec for run out is but probably just 2 or 3 thousands.

 

[icetech]

Yeah, I should have commented on checking the carrier ring gear flange out with a dial indicator before mounting the ring gear. If it isn’t real clean and flat then you will have nothing but trouble setting it up. I don’t remember exactly what the spec for run out is but probably just 2 or 3 thousands.

i didn't dial indicate it but turning the pinion feels much better, i could feel tight spots before, now it feels good... Only thing that bugs me is to get the pinion to 20inch/lb preload it feels crazy tight and almost grindy.. that was with the old setup though, will see how it feels with this.

 

[icetech]

BTW.. on final assemble should i loctite the carrier saddle bolts?

 

[Vitamin_A12]

BTW.. on final assemble should i loctite the carrier saddle bolts?

No, in fact, a light coat of oil and torque to spec.

 

[33 IMP]

Yeah, I should have commented on checking the carrier ring gear flange out with a dial indicator before mounting the ring gear. If it isn’t real clean and flat then you will have nothing but trouble setting it up. I don’t remember exactly what the spec for run out is but probably just 2 or 3 thousands.

I don't remember what the spec is, but I remember the ebay chinese clutch units were about four times worse than an OEM carrier.

 

[dvw]

The trans stuff is actually quicker than gear set up. I HATE gear set up. Just went thru a push button trans with no kick down. Easy diagnosis when you get there. In this case it was a crack in the wall of the valve body next to the throttle pressure valve.
Doug

 

[icetech]

The trans stuff is actually quicker than gear set up. I HATE gear set up. Just went thru a push button trans with no kick down. Easy diagnosis when you get there. In this case it was a crack in the wall of the valve body next to the throttle pressure valve.
Doug

eck.. well i hope not.. i did a tf2 kit and it works fine, just likes to shift really early no matter the throttle input, and no kickdown.. pulled the tailshaft and made sure the gov wasn't stuck or anything messed up (only part i didn't check when building it, cause well.. lazy) Will tackle it when i get to it though, wanna put some miles on once the rear end is back together then move on from there...

I will say, after 22 years finally having a heater in my garage is soooo nice.. used a propane torpedo forever, Cold to too Hot.. off, on.. out of propane.... hated it soo much

 

[dvw]

If it has no kick down most likely not the governor circuit. It's lack of throttle pressure. Need to put a gauge in the accumulator port. Start the car with the lthrottle linkage disconnected. Move the throttle arm at the trans back fully. Pressure should rise at least 50 psi. Throttle Governor pressure has to overcome throttle pressure to make a shift. Throttle pressure must overcome governor pressure to kick down. An early shift from a stuck governor would show low governor pressure at the governor pressure tap. If that were the case it would downshift easily.
Doug

 

[icetech]

Ok.... i setup with .100 and i thought it looked good but a little high, went to .105 and didn't like it but don't wanna set it til i get your opinions..

First the .100 (btw.. is .100+ normal?)
Both of these are at .008 BL

BTW.. i am REALLY starting to hate this... just.. together, apart over and over...

And this is the .105, on the 105 i felt the coast side pattern got a little odd, and the pinion didn't look as good..

 

[AR67GTX]

I like the .100 better myself. It actually looks real good to my less than professional eye. I know you are tired of messing with it but I would try a .095 to .097 setup to make sure you are in the zone.

 

[dvw]

The top setup looks pretty good. Bottom pic pinion is too deep.
Doug

 

[icetech]

OK... i never wanna set up a read end again.. Pinion depth done? OK... no enjoy pulling the pinion X times to do preload.. and remember.. .002+/- makes all the difference.... My personal hell would be setting up carriers all day with all the shims in a pile so i can sit with calipers hunting non stop like i just did for 2 hours

Ended up at .100, came out decent.. Only thing left to do is torque the saddle bolts, i wanna do that on the floor cause i can see myself fighting with it on the bench and having it hit the floor on it's own.. Will try to get it all together this weekend and maybe go for a drive..

 

[33 IMP]

OK... i never wanna set up a read end again.. Pinion depth done? OK... no enjoy pulling the pinion X times to do preload.. and remember.. .002+/- makes all the difference.... My personal hell would be setting up carriers all day with all the shims in a pile so i can sit with calipers hunting non stop like i just did for 2 hours

Ended up at .100, came out decent.. Only thing left to do is torque the saddle bolts, i wanna do that on the floor cause i can see myself fighting with it on the bench and having it hit the floor on it's own.. Will try to get it all together this weekend and maybe go for a drive..

Floor? Or, your foot. (Been there, done that with a block of ice. Not pleasant)

 

[icetech]

Floor? Or, your foot. (Been there, done that with a block of ice. Not pleasant)

yeah.. didn't even consider that.. more worried bout breaking the center section if it fell off the bench

 

[icetech]

if this is noisy or junk after all this i'm just gonna have someone build a 9" or dana and throw it on a credit card.. woulda been easier from the start

 

[icetech]

K, i put bout 10 miles on them.. i have a tiny bit of whine on decel but totally silent other than that, and it's so little that it's not even bothering me.. Not sure bout the new mufflers.. the old ones were crazy loud, i might have gone too quiet but it's nice inside the car..

Thanks for all the help guys

Exhaust almost done... I went to quiet..

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