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I will be moving from Calif to Idaho in the next 2 to 3 years. I am looking for 10+ acres with creek or pond against a hill to shoot.
My driving job had me making deliveries through Vermont quite a bit this past year and I really like it up there and I agree with everything you said. There is one problem though. I don't want to live in any state represented by Bernie Sanders!!!VERmont. The taxes may be high but the roads are great, the taxes keep out the riff raff, there's NO billboards, no sprawl, lots of little quiet towns, spectacular scenery, tons of things to do and see and people up here leave you the hell alone, and expect you to leave them alone. Your expected to fend for yourself, not cry to the city/county/state or Federal government every time you stub yer toe. If you need help, you can get help. If you want to help, you can, there's no church breathing down yer neck for money. Majority of Vermont is working farm land in and amongst mountains and rolling hills. The state is divided right up the middle by the Green Mountains. Lake Champlain empties South through the Champlain valley on the West side of the Greens with the Adirondacks on the other side of the valley. The East side of the Greens is more rocky and hilly with rec places like STOWE mountain ski area etc. Want quiet and peace, in a state that is second only to Montana in the lowest black population, then come on up. Republican governor.
I understand. However, he cant live forever...not every Vermonter is a believer....his staff has done a lot of good for a lot of people here, for me in particular. He's like the not quite sane Uncle that your mother warns you to stay away from at family gatherings. He had a little rally in Middlebury VT last summer. Middlebury is Liberal Education ground zero. Money central. You would think that logically, out of 603,000+ residents of the state, around 30-40,000 might show up in support? Nope, he spoke from a tiny bandstand in a tiny park to a crowd of MAYBE 300 people. The majority of whom seemed to be gay/lesbian couples, hippies, commune dwellers and homeless people. The patchouli and BO was strong on the wind that day. lol. He's no real threat to anyone. His message will never win against the national machine. The powers that be want the country to keep on churning out GDP into their coffers. Bernie is anathema to that aim.
My driving job had me making deliveries through Vermont quite a bit this past year and I really like it up there and I agree with everything you said. There is one problem though. I don't want to live in any state represented by Bernie Sanders!!!
I just need good roads, fair politics, police and fire response.
It will be at least a year. After I officially retire, there is a list of home improvement jobs that I have to do to get top dollar for this place.
My last move I gave away enough stuff for another small house. Cost more than it was worth to move it.
I don't need a sidewalk feces cleanup crew.
The patchouli and BO was strong on the wind that day. lol.
We have talked about that.
We don't have any sentimental attachments to most of the furniture. I'd take the TVs and electronics, the beds, the pictures and framed art. Clothes, VCR tapes, DVDs, photo albums and such.
I do have some car parts that are a tough sell though. I hate to throw them away but who wants body panels for a '60 Valiant ? 64-66 Barracuda?
I want to haul all the cars back with me. Three currently don't even have engines in them. I am looking to sell a '65 Valiant convertible but I am willing to keep the '71 Duster and the Stunt Dart.
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Republican governor.
He doesn't have a lot of impact...People seem to believe that Vermont is one giant commune/collective. Nothing could be further from the truth. There are a good number of such people but they are not the majority. They exist here because the farmers , who like most VT people, minded their own business when the hippie dippies discovered all the greenery and pastoral vistas, free of commercialism. There's only so much land in this tiny state, upon which cows can be grazed and upon which hay can be grown and harvested. The rest is where the hippies settled. The farmers didn't see the hippies as a threat of any kind. The farmers didn't care, they weren't using that land. Northern VT is ate up with them. North East Kingdom is a quiet section with few people and rolling farm and forest land where people REALLY mind their own business. I live 9 miles from Liberal Ground Zero, Middlebury, VT, and you would never know it. They might as well be 100 miles away.And Bernie Sanders as a Senator.
Some service is missing....
Well, I don't need an illegal immigrant legal defense fund.
I don't need a sidewalk feces cleanup crew.
I have no use for a drug needle exchange program.
I just need good roads, fair politics, police and fire response.
There are many places in Missouri where you can hide and still get to a Autozone, Lowes, McDonalds. For years my family rented a log cabin in the middle of 350 acres and were ten miles from Herman Missouri, a beautiful old German community with wineries and rolling hills.He doesn't have a lot of impact...People seem to believe that Vermont is one giant commune/collective. Nothing could be further from the truth. There are a good number of such people but they are not the majority. They exist here because the farmers , who like most VT people, minded their own business when the hippie dippies discovered all the greenery and pastoral vistas, free of commercialism. There's only so much land in this tiny state, upon which cows can be grazed and upon which hay can be grown and harvested. The rest is where the hippies settled. The farmers didn't see the hippies as a threat of any kind. The farmers didn't care, they weren't using that land. Northern VT is ate up with them. North East Kingdom is a quiet section with few people and rolling farm and forest land where people REALLY mind their own business. I live 9 miles from Liberal Ground Zero, Middlebury, VT, and you would never know it. They might as well be 100 miles away.
Lots of farm families place their land into the Land Trust. That way, if their kids decide not to farm any more they cant sell it to developers to build crappy townhouses on. It stays farm land, period. Ensuring VT remains pastoral and beautiful. There's no end of shysters trying to buy up fields and forest, mountain views and rushing pristine streams...not happening. Neither the farmers or the hippie dippies want that to happen. No billboards, by law. When I moved here in 2012 there was only ONE Autozone store. Only ONE Walmart. Now there's two Autozones and Four Walmarts. Three Home Depot. Two Lowes. Five McDonalds in the entire state. Look around the cities you all live in or near and do the same count. In Columbia SC, just one city, there's five Walmart's. No, i'll take VT over most any other place, Bernie not withstanding.
Been a long time since I've been to VT but liked what I saw when there....He doesn't have a lot of impact...People seem to believe that Vermont is one giant commune/collective. Nothing could be further from the truth. There are a good number of such people but they are not the majority. They exist here because the farmers , who like most VT people, minded their own business when the hippie dippies discovered all the greenery and pastoral vistas, free of commercialism. There's only so much land in this tiny state, upon which cows can be grazed and upon which hay can be grown and harvested. The rest is where the hippies settled. The farmers didn't see the hippies as a threat of any kind. The farmers didn't care, they weren't using that land. Northern VT is ate up with them. North East Kingdom is a quiet section with few people and rolling farm and forest land where people REALLY mind their own business. I live 9 miles from Liberal Ground Zero, Middlebury, VT, and you would never know it. They might as well be 100 miles away.
Lots of farm families place their land into the Land Trust. That way, if their kids decide not to farm any more they cant sell it to developers to build crappy townhouses on. It stays farm land, period. Ensuring VT remains pastoral and beautiful. There's no end of shysters trying to buy up fields and forest, mountain views and rushing pristine streams...not happening. Neither the farmers or the hippie dippies want that to happen. No billboards, by law. When I moved here in 2012 there was only ONE Autozone store. Only ONE Walmart. Now there's two Autozones and Four Walmarts. Three Home Depot. Two Lowes. Five McDonalds in the entire state. Look around the cities you all live in or near and do the same count. In Columbia SC, just one city, there's five Walmart's. No, i'll take VT over most any other place, Bernie not withstanding.
I used to own 4 acres right above Arrowhead Head Point. Down near Branson. I have a pic somewhere of me sitting on a curb in Branson before there WAS a "Branson" tourist tap. Loved the rolling hills and deep valleys. Much like VT.There are many places in Missouri where you can hide and still get to a Autozone, Lowes, McDonalds. For years my family rented a log cabin in the middle of 350 acres and were ten miles from Herman Missouri, a beautiful old German community with wineries and rolling hills.