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'69 charger r/t-se: Building my dream car

Great work all around as always Speedy! Good luck with the sale on the stepside and I'm all for seeing the Chevelle updates but you may wanna keep them in this thread instead of starting a separate one as there are a select few on here that feel entitled to get nasty to other brands... I don't share that sentiment as I love Mopars but at heart I'm a Car Guy

Keep doin what you're doin!
 
AWW HELLS NO!!!! Can't have that chevy crap here..................I'm just messin with ya Speedy post away. Back when I was in high school the fastest car was a 67 Chevelle. That car was badass. I'd have to agree with HYRDGOON and keep the build in this thread and good luck with the sale.
 
if it's for racin it's OK


lookin good Jake
If my @ss is in the seat it's always fer racin lol! Thanks Charlie! :icon_thumleft:

You no good for nothing trader, I think a good old fashion linching is in order!!! Just kidding, good to see your still at it even if it isn't with the Charger. Nice patch work and I don't mind one bit if you share your project, maybe if you keep it here on this thread nobody will say anything. Good luck with the turbo's because they sure look like a nightmare to stuff under the hood.

Hahaha thanks Dev, and don't worry I'm still keepin the Charger moving forward! That wheelhouse is all sealed up in chassis saver ready for me to zap the front lower quarter patch in, and me and a couple buddies are gonna tackle changing out that bad starter this weekend. Just more of a splitting my efforts now, in case I didn't have enough on my plate in the first place lol

HEY !!!

What's all this chevy crap doing on a MOPAR board !!! ?

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aaaahh .. whatthehell

I got a couple chebys too .. :pottytrain1:

Mike..
haha no harm no foul Mike, as long as it goes fast I'll drive the wheels off it lol

"The new plan also called for some new sheetmetal for the Chevelle front end, and last weekend I convinced my girlfriend to let me take the long way home (another 2 hours north and 4 back home lol) from our 2 year anniversary coast trip so I could grab some parts from a guy in Portland"


Great fab work as always man......BUT,Hey Speedy!! I love this, Your young yet and asked, convinced talked your girlfriend into making a trip the long way around! Oh boy, all this car work on this ole gal is turning you into a older feller my friend! You sure have learned a lot working on that fan-damn-tastic Charger buddy but....

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LOL, Sorry buddy, couldn't resist it! :) And to be honest about it, ive always kept in close touch with my best friend to, shes a peach!

LOL yeah I thought you long term relationship guys might appreciate the scale of that accomplishment, probably a bigger one than finding that one-year-only chevelle front end hahaha. But we had a pretty awesome couple days at the coast so maybe that softened the blow of the impending 6 hour drive, or maybe she just misses the tire smoke as much as I do :icon_biggrin:

Go for it Speedy . . . I'm guilty too . . . go look at my thread . . . It's a car, and I can work on it, it's ALL GOOD ! ! Nice to see you back ! !
Thanks kahn it's good to be back! And oh yeah I already know, your shoebox is awesome! :icon_thumleft:

Great work all around as always Speedy! Good luck with the sale on the stepside and I'm all for seeing the Chevelle updates but you may wanna keep them in this thread instead of starting a separate one as there are a select few on here that feel entitled to get nasty to other brands... I don't share that sentiment as I love Mopars but at heart I'm a Car Guy

Keep doin what you're doin!
Thanks Goon! And yeah I hear ya, I'm just gonna do like kahn and keep it here in by buildthread. Glad to hear everyone is cool with the updates though!

AWW HELLS NO!!!! Can't have that chevy crap here..................I'm just messin with ya Speedy post away. Back when I was in high school the fastest car was a 67 Chevelle. That car was badass. I'd have to agree with HYRDGOON and keep the build in this thread and good luck with the sale.
Lol thanks John! And that's awesome! All cars have their upsides and downsides but one thing I gotta say about chevy is that full-frame chassis under my Chevelle was not hard at all to make a corner carver out of with just some urethane bushings and front/rear swaybars. 60+ mph entry to a hard right hander and it just squats and powers through haha fun stuff. I'm sure the Charger will be right there with it after frame connectors but that full frame is nice
 
Alright guys so like I said before the plan is a shoestring budget just-about-600 horsepower twin turbo big block. The theory behind everything applies equally to any system running boost whether it's a chevy, mopar, whatever. So here's the rundown on what I've learned and have planned so far.

I found $245 turbo headers on ebay that I'll weld flanges to at the collector for 38mm ebay wastegates, with the wastegate dumps in a recirculating setup, joining back into the exhaust past the turbo. (For anyone that doesn't know, the wastegates redirect excess exhaust gases away from the turbo to prevent over-spooling, they can dump to the outside atmosphere or recirculate back into the exhaust like I'm doing)

I'm leaning towards a knockoff of turbonetics 62-1 T4 .70ar turbo, with the air supplied through a couple missing headlights like the old Thunderbolts haha. Then once charged through the turbo it'll be routed through a "2 in, 1 out" front mount intercooler, with the merged charge pipe running up into a carb hat. Just ahead of the carb I'll have to weld a flang to mount the ebay blow off valve. (Again for those that don't know, the bov just vents excess boost that results from suddenly closing the throttle, preventing the charge from backing up and fighting the compressor and potentially damaging the turbo)

For fuel dumping I'll be going with the trusty 750cfm 4150 double pumper, mainly because of the power valve design which will work awesome for richening the mixture under boost and still let the engine act like a 750-topped N/A big block off-boost. Bought the first piece of the puzzle today in this garage-sale-find 4779-6 that used to be on a local stock car. It still even had the solid nitrophyl floats that are needed to rework the carb for blow-thru (these ones are single-wedge oval tracks if I ever want to hit some high banks too lol). If anyone's interested I'll also do a step-by-step on the whole blow-thru mod process, should be fun!
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Upstream from the carb I'll be redoing the fuel system since all I have in place now is a 47 year old small block setup and an electric pump up front pulling instead of pushing with no return line (not ideal). So now I'll be dropping the tank and going with a pretty damn nice 20 gal fuel cell I found on ebay, with hand-bent 3/8" sending and return lines and -6AN stainless braid hoses bridging all connections. The stainless braid hose I'm using is a PTFE (teflon lined) hose designed to resist fuel seepage, and in a black finish.

To decide on a fuel pump I had to look at both pressure and flow requirements. As a rule of thumb, fuel pressure has to rise 1 psi for every 1 psi of boost, so the formula for pressure is simple:
Base naturally aspirated fuel pressure (6 psi) + boost pressure (7/8 psi) + allowance for pressure drop through fuel line bends, etc. (about 5 psi) = 18 required max psi
The formula I used to find flow requirement was:
Peak horsepower (I was way generous at 650) x Brake specific fuel consumption (est. .6 for low boost forced induction) ÷ 6 (weight per gallon of fuel) = 65 required max gph

With those two requirements in mind it'd be easy to buy a $350 Aeromotive a1000 pump and have the capability to support way beyond what I need, but in the interest of keeping a low budget I did some hunting around and found this Carter pump with good reviews as far as reliability, only a $130 price tag, and almost perfectly matched specs to what I need.
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/crt-p4601hp

Like I mentioned about the 1:1 fuel/boost pressure ratio, this will be maintained with a bypass style boost referenced fuel regulator. At first I looked at the Mallory 4309 but it had an advertised max pressure of 14 psi, did a little more looking and found the Aeromotive 13301 with a 3-65 psi range for only $30 more.

And last but not least, oiling will be routed from a t-fitting placed on one of the 4 driver's side main galley oil ports along the lower driver's side of the 454, restrictors will be used to keep from over-oiling the turbo's, with drain lines running to weld-in AN fittings on the oil pan. Since the turbo's won't be water cooled I'll be doing a couple things to help keep oil temps down; high cap 7 qt oil pan, external oil cooler, and possibly remote oil filters. Either way I'll definitely be adding an oil temp gauge to keep an eye on things.

So I might have forgotten a couple things but that's the good basic rundown of my battle plan. Also traded my repop SS hood yesterday for $200 and the last of the front end sheet metal I needed. More progress to come and hopefully I can get that starter switched out on the Charger and get a good video up of it running for you guys next week. Wish me luck! Haha
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Hey !
I found a Holly DP in my trunk after I crawled in there to pop it open. :icon_biggrin:
Just got a TricKit for it.. WAY too many parts !! It's sitting on the car now, gonna try it before I rebuild it ..

Mike..

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I haven't checked out your build tread in a while, 48 pages now...LOL...
Charger has come a long way Mr.SpeedFreak,
congrats & it looking great...

I need some inspiration lately
 
Thanks guys! Been a busy couple weeks and I've been holding off on getting the starter changed out, because I've been waiting on a deal that's finally going through to buy a set of coated Doug's headers for $300! I'm buying them from a customer of my friend Mike, and he said he's game to help me swap them out. So now that I'll be able to run a mini starter, I priced one from Napa that ended up being $145 remanufactured, but I made some calls and found one at the local junkyard for $75 haha (it's a mid-late '90s v8 Durango starter, thanks to CDR Charlie for the heads-up about that interchange) this weekend those should be going in!

So other than being excited to bring Frankenstein back among the living, I've been busy keeping the progress rolling with the Chevelle. I did all the math on the 62-1 turbo and checked that it's right for my setup, so now my parts list is pretty much finished up. Also finished fixing up the truck, so I'm just trying to get the rolling chevelle chassis all put together before I list the truck up for sale.

Speaking of the parts list, I started chipping away at it and got my fuel cell. 22 gal, w/sending unit for $190 shipped. Just have to weld up the cradle for it and start chopping up my trunk haha
My girlfriend's cat seemed pretty impressed lol

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Looking at the 454 on the engine stand got me thinking Blackie could use a more appropriate looking powerplant. So that got stripped down, etch primed, and painted... wait for it, you guessed it, black haha
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And last weekend I finally started swapping over the front suspension. I assumed the control arms were going to be all FUBAR, but lo and behold, everything escaped the accident unharmed! Control arms, shocks, urethane bushings, balljoints, all still combat-ready, only casualties were the swaybar end links and tie rods/sleeves

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Pretty stoked to save a couple hundred bucks and a weekend of work that would have been spent rebuilding that front end. Just gotta break out some brake cleaner, wipe everything down, and bolt it all up to the new frame

Hope I can get you guys that video this weekend, can't wait to hear the Charger run again with the rebuilt carb
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Oh heeeeeeell yeah!! How much to get a few of those sent out my way?!

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That's pretty awesome of him too :icon_thumleft:
 
Speedy - thought your car was almost done, now it's looking my MY CAR with more apart then there is together ! ! !


DAMN RIGHT!!

Got these in the mail today courtesy of USARR

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That's WAY cool there USARoadRunner ! ! ! Great job on those stickers ! ! ! Love them ! ! !

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Pfffffftttt Who paints stuff black anyways!!

Yeah . . . what he said ! ! ! LMAO ! ! !
 
I can't help but think about a lonely Charger stuffed off in the corner while you tinker with a Chebbie haha. Somebody has to bust your balls Speedy.
 
hahahahaha I love the stickers thats kick ***! USARR how did you make those?


i used to do sign work awhile ago, and never got rid of my plotter/cutter plus the 4k software to run it. fer racin is copy righted and patented and sole user of fer racin is goon........lol

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Oh heeeeeeell yeah!! How much to get a few of those sent out my way?!

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That's pretty awesome of him too :icon_thumleft:


these stickers add HP, and we all know HP is not cheap....lol thanks

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Speedy - thought your car was almost done, now it's looking my MY CAR with more apart then there is together ! ! !




That's WAY cool there USARoadRunner ! ! ! Great job on those stickers ! ! ! Love them ! ! !

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Yeah . . . what he said ! ! ! LMAO ! ! !




thanks kahn, glad you had a good time at nats and it looks like i might have to cut some more high hp stickers
 
Speedy - thought your car was almost done, now it's looking my MY CAR with more apart then there is together ! ! !
I can't help but think about a lonely Charger stuffed off in the corner while you tinker with a Chebbie haha. Somebody has to bust your balls Speedy.

Lol! Fear not, comrades, Frankenstein is sitting right up front and center patiently waiting for a shiny new set of headers haha I can't wait to get those in and be running a mini-starter.
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And it's been interesting getting peoples' reactions when I tell them I'm going to twin-turbo my stock, rebuilt, truck-variety 454, most of the time I automatically get lumped in with the people who think they can just bolt on twin turbo's and make 2,000 horsepower and call it a day haha. But like I mentioned before, I'm doing my best to design a system that doesn't go beyond its own limits, not some 30 psi 2,000 horsepower monster, just an intercooled 8 psi on an 8.5:1 econo-cam big block.

I fully own the fact that there's still a possibility this whole thing will fail, but this Car Craft torture test put some serious wind in my sails that a proper tune will keep everything in one piece. 1,237 hp and 1,332 ft/lbs on 29 PSI with race fuel and not even a hiccup. I think my measley 8 psi stands a fair chance of survival lol

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/1410_turbo_torture_testing_a_stock_bbc_short_block/?sm_id=social29600406

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Oh and I gotta motion for some kind of sticker design that applies to us ragtag bunch of buildthread nutjobs as a whole haha I think this group has gotten tight enough over the past couple years to qualify for a unifying sticker, yay? Nay? Any ideas?! I'm down to pitch in if anyone else is game lol
 
Speedy i cant say about stickers, but those shinny new headers sounds like a cool deal! i imagine ancy your getting, but your heading in the right direction to some real time fun, ill bet on that! :) We all wonder if the time will come where were cruising not building, sometimes detours can be interesting to ive found out, clears my mind lol...
 
We used to have a big bloodshot eye with EyeBall Engineering around it. Always thought it would make a cool sticker.
 
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