747mopar
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Yes on the lines, getting 1" lines. Haven't looked at pumps much but they'll be mounted in the basement and garage provided I can get the ditch level enough to the house.
And so it begins..... my new garage
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747mopar
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I've talked to 4 dealers, Central Boiler themselves and all say 1", also seen a guy heating 12,000 sq ft (3 buildings) with 1" line? I'll do some double checking.
747mopar
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Not 200ft, 100ft each way, 2 totally separate runs.
747mopar
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More reading, more testimonials, more head scratching... confident the 1" is plenty if not I'll concede my ignorance for all to see lol. Found some forums where people are heating way more and traveling longer distances so we'll see.
Picked up the hoe yesterday afternoon and dug the whole ditch for the house in no time minus up against the basement wall. This was the worst part that I have to dig, hill, off camber, threw a diversion ditch, dig up a small tree, around the electric pole and up against the propane tank!! Because I'm wanting to run the pump in the basement I dug almost 5 ft deep where it passes threw the bank, should be near level but all way below the water level (it will easily gravity feed all the way to both the house and garage).
It went well right until I hit my water line
.. I knew I was close and was being careful but it wasn't as deep as I had thought (28"). With that stretch done the rest should go quick.
Picked up the hoe yesterday afternoon and dug the whole ditch for the house in no time minus up against the basement wall. This was the worst part that I have to dig, hill, off camber, threw a diversion ditch, dig up a small tree, around the electric pole and up against the propane tank!! Because I'm wanting to run the pump in the basement I dug almost 5 ft deep where it passes threw the bank, should be near level but all way below the water level (it will easily gravity feed all the way to both the house and garage).
It went well right until I hit my water line
.. I knew I was close and was being careful but it wasn't as deep as I had thought (28"). With that stretch done the rest should go quick.bm02tj
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so it is only 50 ft one way
747mopar
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The boiler will sit right between the house and garage, 100ft to the house, 100ft to the garage. The boiler has 2 ports, 1 for each and both runs will gravity feed to a pump mounted at both the house and garage so the pumps wills basically just push the water threw the units then back to the boiler. Both locations using 1 heat exchanger and both with almost identical areas to be heated with radiant floors. The one thing you have to remember is the radiant floor gets the water after the exchanger and doesn't require much flow but heats over an extended period, once it's warm it requires little to maintain.
747mopar
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Rented a mini excavator over Christmas vacation and got the lines for the boiler in the ground. 
Unfortunately the weather turned and had to cancel the concrete for the pad but it's formed and ready.
Thanks to the weather app on my phone I was able to work around the weather, dug and installed the line to the house Friday night then stayed up until 3:00 AM Saturday night digging and installing the line to the garage. Totally avoided digging in the rain but still have a mess by the house since it rained all Saturday morning but it's sealed and done!
Boiler line in garage, far enough back to be out of the way of the garage door.
In the basement, for those who have never seen this it's a Styrofoam forming system...10" concrete.
And my helper, more of a pain knocking dirt back in the hole.
Unfortunately the weather turned and had to cancel the concrete for the pad but it's formed and ready.Thanks to the weather app on my phone I was able to work around the weather, dug and installed the line to the house Friday night then stayed up until 3:00 AM Saturday night digging and installing the line to the garage. Totally avoided digging in the rain but still have a mess by the house since it rained all Saturday morning but it's sealed and done!
Boiler line in garage, far enough back to be out of the way of the garage door.
In the basement, for those who have never seen this it's a Styrofoam forming system...10" concrete.
And my helper, more of a pain knocking dirt back in the hole.
747mopar
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Heat exchanger will be at the shop and house, boiler is atmospheric. All I can say is if 6 people are wrong (5 installers and the manufacture) I'll be pissed!!! I really think I'll be alright, lot's of things play into it like the home and garage being very well insulated and tucked in a valley free of strong winds. Hope they are right.
Came pretty close to you I think. Back up from Columbus today from seeing daughter , came across Rt.30 thru Wooster,Canton towards the north. I’ll have to ‘pm’ you for exact locale. JeffRented a mini excavator over Christmas vacation and got the lines for the boiler in the ground.
Thanks to the weather app on my phone I was able to work around the weather, dug and installed the line to the house Friday night then stayed up until 3:00 AM Saturday night digging and installing the line to the garage. Totally avoided digging in the rain but still have a mess by the house since it rained all Saturday morning but it's sealed and done!
Boiler line in garage, far enough back to be out of the way of the garage door.View attachment 553205
In the basement, for those who have never seen this it's a Styrofoam forming system...10" concrete. View attachment 553206
And my helper, more of a pain knocking dirt back in the hole.View attachment 553207
ws27
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The one inch will be fine. Your blower heater in the garage might run a little more than you'd like though. The fan may get annoying. What kind of heat do you have in the house, forced air, or water?
If you oversize the blowers' heat exchanger you will cut down on fan on time.
If you oversize the blowers' heat exchanger you will cut down on fan on time.
747mopar
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Wooster and Canton are about 45 minutes north of me.
747mopar
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House is forced air at the moment.
747mopar
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Can't say I remember the seen.. probably a good thing if it involved a 4" round green slong!!!
bm02tj
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Ask one of them to tell you how many gallon per minute you need then look up the head pressure to get that volume in 200 feet of 1 in tube then look at pump curves Please note the pumps do not suck very well only push
Good luck
747mopar
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I'm well aware of pumps not being as good at drawing water as they are at pressurizing it but it won't have draw anything, it'll be gravity fed (a few psi of gravity pressure keeps it fed at all times). My spring water is set up the same and as a matter of fact sits just behind the boiler so it should have the same affect, with my spring water it will actually push enough water without a pump to reach the main floor. The boiler will be a bit higher as far as water level goes in comparison so I expect it will push every bit as much if not more. In comparison to my dad's old shallow well pump where he had to replace them often I've been running the same pump for over 15 years.
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not so famous bob
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I didn`t read all these posts, but ur asking questions that he has already answered or stated !
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