Hawk-Rod: The Restoration

[440+6]

Looks great Hawk, the sound deadening really helps, I did mine last winter and noticed a big difference.
On mine I also did the top of the package tray and the inside of the trunk divider along with the doors and quarters.
Maybe next year I'l drop the headliner and do the ceiling the way you did yours.

 

[HawkRod]

Looks great Hawk, the sound deadening really helps, I did mine last winter and noticed a big difference.
On mine I also did the top of the package tray and the inside of the trunk divider along with the doors and quarters.
Maybe next year I'l drop the headliner and do the ceiling the way you did yours.

Thanks for the note 440+6!

I have to order more Dynamat for the side of the car, and was considering adding it to the package tray as well. Any thoughts on adding the Dynamat to the top vs. the underside of the package tray? The top seems a heck of a lot easier, but will add some thickness that may make the package tray harder to fit. The underside won't add the thickness, but seems like it would be a pain to install.

Also, when you mention the trunk divider, did you add Dynamat to the cardboard piece that separates the seat from the trunk? That thought flashed through my head, but I wasn't sure if the Dynamat would work on anything other than metal.

Thanks,

Hawk

 

[Propwash]

Thanks Prop!

So I am trying to remember if you did this for your car - I will need to go back to your thread to check, but from your reply it sounds like you did. I need more Dynamat, as I still need to do the inside of the doors and quarter panels (beside rear seat). I was not planning to Dynamat the trunk area, but just hope the dividing panel and rear seat would absorb the noise. I was thinking maybe to add some more noise reducing material to the panel or seat back if needed.

Any disagreements with this plan?

Thanks,

Hawk

Yeah, sure did Hawk! Went pretty much identical to the same route you're going. After installing it and hearing/feeling the difference I don't think there is any way i'll be not installing this in my cars moving forward. As far as the divider and the package tray, I installed a thin foam based Jute on both. I'd say about 1/2" thick or so. So to answer your question, your package tray insert will have no problem seating correctly over your Dynamat. I haven't noticed any road noise coming from that area. Like you mentioned, the seat blocks the trunk noise.

 

[HawkRod]

Yeah, sure did Hawk! Went pretty much identical to the same route you're going. After installing it and hearing/feeling the difference I don't think there is any way i'll be not installing this in my cars moving forward. As far as the divider and the package tray, I installed a thin foam based Jute on both. I'd say about 1/2" thick or so. So to answer your question, your package tray insert will have no problem seating correctly over your Dynamat. I haven't noticed any road noise coming from that area. Like you mentioned, the seat blocks the trunk noise.

Thanks Prop!

Now I have a plan to finish - all I need now is some more Dynamat and some warmer weather!

 

[440+6]

Thanks for the note 440+6!

I have to order more Dynamat for the side of the car, and was considering adding it to the package tray as well. Any thoughts on adding the Dynamat to the top vs. the underside of the package tray? The top seems a heck of a lot easier, but will add some thickness that may make the package tray harder to fit. The underside won't add the thickness, but seems like it would be a pain to install.

Also, when you mention the trunk divider, did you add Dynamat to the cardboard piece that separates the seat from the trunk? That thought flashed through my head, but I wasn't sure if the Dynamat would work on anything other than metal.

Thanks,

Hawk

The package tray will fit fine with the Dynamat and it can't be seen afterwords, I had extra material so I did the cardboard divider, I wanted to keep out as much noise as possible.

 

[HawkRod]

The package tray will fit fine with the Dynamat and it can't be seen afterwords, I had extra material so I did the cardboard divider, I wanted to keep out as much noise as possible.

Thanks - this is a great picture too, as I see you covered the interior area on the side, rather than trying to get some Dynamat slid in through the back window channel. I will do that too unless there were fitment issues with doing that - I was worried that there would be, but I was honestly unsure how the heck I was going to be able to get it back there!

 

[440+6]

Thanks - this is a great picture too, as I see you covered the interior area on the side, rather than trying to get some Dynamat slid in through the back window channel. I will do that too unless there were fitment issues with doing that - I was worried that there would be, but I was honestly unsure how the heck I was going to be able to get it back there!

It to me and my big *** hands it looked impossible to get anything behind there, although I know some people have, I also did the doors the same way stopping the dynamat just behind the push in clips for the panel and once installed it looks perfect, I don't know how much it helped sound wise but I had enough material to do it so I went for it
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[HawkRod]

It to me and my big *** hands it looked impossible to get anything behind there, although I know some people have, I also did the doors the same way stopping the dynamat just behind the push in clips for the panel and once installed it looks perfect, I don't know how much it helped sound wise but I had enough material to do it so I went for it

Fantastic feedback - Thanks! Then I will do the same and not kill myself getting into all the small spaces. Even though I have smaller hands and can sometimes reach into tight places, I still don't enjoy the cuts and marks that would come with trying to smooth out and firmly adhere the Dynamat in there.

My hands thank you sir! :headbang:

 

[440+6]

I just want to add that when I did the cardboard trunk divider I used strips of dynomat at the sides and bottom to seal it completely, the trunk area seems to act like a bass speaker transmitting road and exhaust noise into the interior, I think this area is where I noticed the most improvement in sound reduction.
In the future I will probably put some insulation of some type under and behind the back seat also.

 

[Jimmy69Satellite]

To GearAddict: Thank you for this link to a free Plymouth Field Service Manual!!! Awesome!!!

 

[HawkRod]

To GearAddict: Thank you for this link to a free Plymouth Field Service Manual!!! Awesome!!!

Now while I'd like to think of GearAddict as a friend, you have the wrong thread! No worries, I'll post on his thread to link him in!

 

[HawkRod]

Front Seat Recovered!

Since it was so cold this weekend, I worked exclusively inside. There were probably more urgent things I needed to do to the car outside, but sometimes you gotta go with the flow. Plus, I wanted to avoid freezing my butt off!!!

The good news is, I got my front seat recovered. I think it came out pretty good, maybe a B+ or A- job, so I am pretty happy. The biggest issue was that &^$#! mice had gotten into the passenger seat back. It stunk, but the worst part was, all the fluff and stuffing they brought into the seat back helped to rust some of it. Luckily, the seat bottom and driver seat back were OK.

Here is what happens when mice get into seats - yuck!


First added some burlap to the seat backs


Head rest holes needed to be cut into the burlap


Then added 4 layers of cotton and cover - the head rest holes needed to be cut out again prior to putting the cover on.


The completed seat back - ready for the seat cover. What I don't have pictures of is the seat cover installation. I folded the seat back cover in half. Based on a tip I saw on a video clip, I put a plastic bag over the seat back. This helped the cover easily slip over the seat back. Once it was half way on, I rolled the rest of the cover down over the seat and attached it.


Completed seat. Ignore the head rests - they are wrong and obviously not in great shape. These still need to be completed. I think with a little heat gun action and "resting" in place the wrinkles in the seat will get a lot better...


Here is a shot from the side


Now for some warmer weather please so I can get outside to the car...

 

[tallhair]

Very very well done Hawk

 

[snakeyes]

loving this build gets better every day :headbang:

 

[Hemirunner]

Very nice upholstery job! I like the Dynamat as well. Is that stuff heavy?

 

[HawkRod]

Thanks for the kind words guys. It is nice to be making progress, and having folks check out the thread is good motivation! Thanks for checking in!

I like the Dynamat as well. Is that stuff heavy?

It is heavy, but not very thick. I have a little more to add, and I am guessing it will be maybe 40 pounds when it is all said and done...

 

[NZ 70 RR]

Looking good as usual Hawk, seats look like an A to me.

 

[monroegtx]

Looking good as usual Hawk. I'd also like to commend you on your step by step pics and descriptions, you always make it easy to see how you went about doing things, and that's great to see. Well done. :icon_thumright:



Had to make an edit here because as soon as I hit the post button, NZ70RR had just posted at the same time. I swear I didn't just copy Tony's opening line lol.

 

[conv67bdere]

Dynamat the top ? ? Have you looked into DynaLiner ? ?

Hey Hawk - hate to go back to the Dynamat on the top of the car, but are you aware of the product by the same company called DynaLiner ? I think it comes in 1/8, 1/4, and 1/2" thicknesses, is MUCH lighter than the Dynamat, and will work great as a sound deadener and heat deadener from the sun shining on the roof of your car.

I put the DynaLiner on the roof of my shoebox - and I really like it . . . thought I had a picture of it but can't find it right now. Might need to shoot another picture of it for you.

Just a thought - thought I'd just throw it out there for you to consider.

Another idea
that suggested by a good friend, is to put a strip ( 2-3" wide ) of dynamat inside each door on the back of the outside panel. The reasoning is that it'll help dampen some the vibrations that you hear in the car and from the doors - he did it to his Dart and he swears that his Dart now sounds better than most new cars as a result of it. I'm going to do it to all of my cars - it's a small investment but sounds ( or is that lack of sounds ) like it's well worth it.

 

[HawkRod]

Looking good as usual Hawk. I'd also like to commend you on your step by step pics and descriptions, you always make it easy to see how you went about doing things, and that's great to see. Well done. :icon_thumright:



Had to make an edit here because as soon as I hit the post button, NZ70RR had just posted at the same time. I swear I didn't just copy Tony's opening line lol.

LOL. Now I know you are from Australia and Tony is from New Zealand, but to us here in the States, they are both merely "down under"! Maybe this proves there are lots of similarities??? :toothy10:

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Hey Hawk - hate to go back to the Dynamat on the top of the car, but are you aware of the product by the same company called DynaLiner ? I think it comes in 1/8, 1/4, and 1/2" thicknesses, is MUCH lighter than the Dynamat, and will work great as a sound deadener and heat deadener from the sun shining on the roof of your car.

I put the DynaLiner on the roof of my shoebox - and I really like it . . . thought I had a picture of it but can't find it right now. Might need to shoot another picture of it for you.

Just a thought - thought I'd just throw it out there for you to consider.

Another idea
that suggested by a good friend, is to put a strip ( 2-3" wide ) of dynamat inside each door on the back of the outside panel. The reasoning is that it'll help dampen some the vibrations that you hear in the car and from the doors - he did it to his Dart and he swears that his Dart now sounds better than most new cars as a result of it. I'm going to do it to all of my cars - it's a small investment but sounds ( or is that lack of sounds ) like it's well worth it.

I appreciate the thoughts on the Dynamat/Dynaliner. I put the Dynaliner in my firewall area to help keep out engine bay heat, and I half considered to add it to the roof. However, I already had the "regular" insulation, although I am less than impressed with it. I do think that the Dynaliner would do a much better job with the heat if I installed that over the Dynamat. As I am way over budget, I was going to leave well enough alone, although your experience is making me rethink that plan.

As far as Dynamat inside the doors: I think I will have a little extra, so I will add some to the inside as well if it helps. Thanks for the ideas!!!