Monroe's 70 GTX

[Brads70]

Nice job!!!

 

[monroegtx]

New Years update

Have been fiddling a bit over the xmas break since my young bloke has been down here on leave and wants to see it running. Ordered a new battery tray but the hole was slightly different, so had to drill another. Fitted the TTI exhaust which went together well, but I think I may have to get a spacer made where the drivers side exhaust head meets the manifold, as it sits a bit skewif that side on the under belly. A little bit too close to the floor compared to the passenger side. It'll do at the moment just to run it. Had to make a couple of brake lines at the valves, as the old ones had rounded nuts, and I couldn't replace the nuts without making new pipe. I repainted the master cylinder cast iron grey as I wasn't too happy with the black, I think it looks better this way. I plan too remove a couple of things later and clean them up a bit better, but at the moment just trying to get it to running stage. Made a priming rod from some threaded bar which turned out ok, used my old oil pump to get the hex right. Tomorrows the big day. If you don't hear from me for awhile means it didn't go well.:sigh:

 

[tallhair]

Great update! Car looks so good with all the freshly painted / plated etc stuff going in and on it. I'll keep my fingers crossed and I hope your take some video of it running !!!

 

[2059]

Just picked up on your thread this morning. WOW! great resto monroe!! subscribed and anxious to see/hear the results!!

 

[paladin06]

Looks like an awesome project. Keep us posted.

 

[747mopar]

Great to hear your finally to that point and I hope it all goes well for you. The exhaust looks really good along with all of the other updates "congrats". I'll be keeping my fingures crossed for you.

 

[Darius]

Lookin good Monroe. I know the anxious anticipation of "being done". 6 more weeks until my 5+ year project rolls in to Autorama. You are close too, can't wait to see yours all finished up. i too, love that green. nice job bro!

 

[monroegtx]

Ok here's the latest. The first attempt at firing up I discovered that I wasn't getting any fuel. I should have bought a new fuel pump when I rebuilt the motor. I don't why I didn't, just never thought of it. Ended up rigging a gravity feed just to get it started. Still wouldn't fire up because it wasn't getting power. I checked on the forums for minimal wiring to start as I really didn't have a clue on how to go about it. I attached the pos lead to starter and connected a push button between the starter relay and solenoid to start. I attached a pos wire to coil pos with a switch to cut power. This didn't give me any power as the first vid shows.

[video=youtube;9YEDPiNW9KE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YEDPiNW9KE[/video]


After chatting with the bloke at the parts store he told me that I have HEI electronic ignition and that I would have to wire in the loom. I did that and looked on the wiring schematics :icon_eyes: to find where the power comes in. I connected a positive feed to the brown wire on the plug which normally goes into the firewall block and tried again. This time it almost started but still couldn't quite get there. I forgot to take off the power line direct to coil, since I now had power coming through the loom, and the coil got quite hot. I disconnected this wire before the next attempt.

I told a friend about it almost firing and how it popped a bit out of the carby and he suggested to recheck if I had the timing right. He thought that maybe I may have set it at the exhaust TDC instead of the compression. I re did it and now it doesn't seem like it wants to fire at all.

I'm still trying to upload the videos. Will have them as soon as I can. I had to add the next two vids separatetly below.

 

[68GTX440]

Check to see if you are 180 out on the distributor. The easiest way to tell pull #1 spark plug bump starter with remote until you feel compression building up then get the piston to top dead center. Then check where your rotor is pointing in relation to #1 plug wire on the distributor cap. No you will know for sure where to go from there.

By the way damn nice build.

 

[kiwigtx]

This is starting to get really exciting now....can't wait to see some videos :headbang:

 

[monroegtx]

Sorry about the swearing. This attempt was made after I hooked up the engine loom.
[video=youtube;x0ZhA2I3lwI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ZhA2I3lwI[/video]

Can't seem to upload the last vid. will try again tomorrow. Cheers.

 

[tallhair]

I'm still trying to upload the videos. Will have them as soon as I can. I had to add the next two vids separatetly below.

I'm really looking forward to hearing that sweet X fire and run. You are really close so good luck sorting it out

You can only upload one vid per comment normally. Someone else has to post in the thread then you can upload another or you have to wait a certain number of hours .. not sure on the number .. so the software sees it as a sep comment and doesn't append it to your last comment.

You will be able to upload another vid now that there have been some posts and time has elapsed.

If you have more than one more vid to upload PM me the links and I can get the posted for you.

 

[kiwigtx]

If the plug wiring is correct I would adjust the distributor position a bit more, rather than flooding the engine with fuel

 

[monroegtx]

Thanks for the suggestions Tallhair and Kiwi. This is the last try after I adjusted the timing again. I think I may have been closer with the last one.
[video=youtube;UmbMy5REP8k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmbMy5REP8k[/video]

 

[747mopar]

I'm going to add to what 68gtx440 said, don't know how experienced you are so I'll add to it. Pull #1 plug and put your thumb over the hole while bumping the motor over, you will feel it blow your thumb off of the hole as it comes onto the compression stroke (stop as soon as you feel it so you don't go past tdc). Once you feel the compression turn it the rest of the way up to your desired timing mark then make sure the rotor is pointing at the #1 plug wire terminal. Doing this should get your timing close enough to start, next confirm fuel coming out of the boosters when giving it throttle. After listening to your video it does sound like a timing issue, go over it thoroughly and you'll get it. Good luck

 

[kiwigtx]

As well as what 747 says above, another boost on the battery might be useful - maybe a running car next door with jumper leads to help out. It is possible your voltage is diving away now after all that cranking. You still need a good 10-11 volts for that ignition to spark up when the timing is correct. Sounds close now.

 

[ga66mopar]

Sounds like the timing is off to me.

 

[Ron 73]

I would definitely give your battery a good charge, Ive had this happen to me and without the proper voltage it doesn't have enough to fire it, timing may be off but your battery needs some juice for sure..

 

[monroegtx]

Thanks for the input guys. The cranking drains the power so bloody quickly. I think that once I go over it again I'll do what Kiwi suggests and put another running car with it to give it some oomph. Cheers.

 

[Propwash]

I agree with these fellas monroe, that cranking sounds pretty sick. Charge that puppy up. Have you checked for spark at all? Pull a spark plug, keep it attached to the plug wire and check the spark while cranking. 747 has some real good advice to get a baseline to work from. Get #1 piston to top dead center and go from there. Make sure the #1 plug wire/dist cap correlates with the position of the rotor when at top dead center.

As far as your fuel pump, have you already troubleshot it to ensure that's the issue or it isn't further up to the carb? Disconnect the fuel line before the fuel filter, run a jar/container under it, crank to see if you have fuel coming out. Sorry, I don't know what you've tried and haven't tried so I hope my suggestions don't come out elementary or redundant. All engines require are fuel, fire and air. I'd start with the very basic's and dig into the specific systems from there. Best of luck, she's just about there!