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Our car hobby just got a stay of execution

Long live the gas pump!
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Either way our hobby wasn't going anywhere in our lifetime. Now that is guaranteed for even longer.
Well said and on top of that, it was never going to work anyway. They saved face by losing. You can't make people buy what they can't afford, legislation or not. Does anyone remember how leaded and unleaded gas was supposed to work. How about cash for clunkers. Just because someone says green is now the new blue, doesn't make it so. Go ahead and force feed people and well, you see what happened!!.................. People may be slow, but not all people are stupid........... Let The Horses Run!!!!
 
Well said and on top of that, it was never going to work anyway. They saved face by losing. You can't make people buy what they can't afford, legislation or not. Does anyone remember how leaded and unleaded gas was supposed to work. How about cash for clunkers. Just because someone says green is now the new blue, doesn't make it so. Go ahead and force feed people and well, you see what happened!!.................. People may be slow, but not all people are stupid........... Let The Horses Run!!!!
Well, we now have unleaded only, and cash for clunkers removed millions of usable cars from the system.
 
Well, we now have unleaded only, and cash for clunkers removed millions of usable cars from the system.
Unleaded gas started in late 1970, early 1971. How many classic cars went into the dumpster. Time caught up before legislation did. Time creates, not force feeding.
 
Not polical at all. It is fact based on public statements and history. Read into it what you will.
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CNN strikes again :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
And again and again and again......
maybe but I'm sure its just his humble opinion :rofl:
Someone always has to try and take it to the PF. Yesterday evening I got off the net and went to take a shower shortly after making my comment in post #20 and just got back on this morning and saw that another mod deleted his comment. At least he didn't move the thread to the PF....I should have deleted it instead of leaving it up.
 
Well said and on top of that, it was never going to work anyway. They saved face by losing. You can't make people buy what they can't afford, legislation or not. Does anyone remember how leaded and unleaded gas was supposed to work. How about cash for clunkers. Just because someone says green is now the new blue, doesn't make it so. Go ahead and force feed people and well, you see what happened!!.................. People may be slow, but not all people are stupid........... Let The Horses Run!!!!
Cash for clunkers was the trial run for what they had planned for our classic muscle cars,and have no doubt they were planning on implementing it had things gone their way.
 
Cash for clunkers was the trial run for what they had planned for our classic muscle cars,and have no doubt they were planning on implementing it had things gone their way.
In the cities they are dropping electric scooters everywhere. I think you use your phone to rent them.
Typically kids trash them all. It doesn’t make sense from a business or mass transit perspective.
I believe it is a trial run for when gas vehicles are outlawed and people can’t afford electric cars.
 
Cash for clunkers was the trial run for what they had planned for our classic muscle cars,and have no doubt they were planning on implementing it had things gone their way.
Didn't work is all I have to say. Do you really think EVERY classic car was going to be thrown out. Get real. That's a large pool of enthusiasts that now would have lost everything and ended up having nothing. It's never going to happen. Remember, we won, they lost. What does that tell you. If you believe that, you stand to lose a lot of money and by your thinking you're holding on to a large pile of valueless scrapmetal.
 
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Didn't work is all I have to say. Do you really think EVERY classic car was going to be thrown out. Get real. That's a large pool of enthusiasts that now would have lost everything and ended up having nothing. It's never going to happen. Remember, we won, they lost. What does that tell you. If you believe that, you stand to lose a lot of money and by your thinking you're hold on to a large pile of valueless scrapmetal.
The point is there are a lot of people who drive old cars out of necessity. We also buy used parts.

This program took many of those vehicles and parts out of the market, and by extension, drove up the price of used cars.

That it hurt low income people is a fact.
 
No doubt,but don't believe for one second that the program wasn't intended for all internal combustion vehicles to have the engines destroyed so they could never be run again.
 
Didn't work is all I have to say. Do you really think EVERY classic car was going to be thrown out. Get real. That's a large pool of enthusiasts that now would have lost everything and ended up having nothing. It's never going to happen. Remember, we won, they lost. What does that tell you. If you believe that, you stand to lose a lot of money and by your thinking you're hold on to a large pile of valueless scrapmetal.
My corporate experience (and watching the large state university in my backyard) enabled me to observe how foolish wishful thinking by those in power often gets de-railed by reality.
 
It helps the used cars here in that we don't have inspections in this state and there is a 7% sales tax when you license a car initially.. $$$ to pay if you buy a new car. Many can't afford the new they have to drive old stuff. Sad thing is its getting harder to keep the older stuff going.. less and less quality mechanics. One of my boys had a exhaust leaking on his 4 banger 2012 equinox. He took it in to the local Chev dealer and they said he needed a whole exhaust system for $4500.
I fixed it for him this week. I welded in a new flex pipe. It was $19 plus my time. There was nothing else wrong with the exhaust!
 
The point is there are a lot of people who drive old cars out of necessity. We also buy used parts.

This program took many of those vehicles and parts out of the market, and by extension, drove up the price of used cars.

That it hurt low income people is a fact.
Life will go on and not one person has been forced to get rid of a 1500 dollar car for a 40 thousand dollar one. They lost remember.
 
The Stellantis electric GTX is what they want the future of musclecars to be! Quiet and uneventful!
 
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