Restomod charger pics

[747mopar]

Fun, fun, I got to play with the TIG a little over the weekend welding up my stainless X pipe. I'm pretty new to using the TIG but it sure is fun and aggrevating, not having the extra hand to help steady things and having to feed wire while welding sure adds to the level of difficulty. Anyways hears some pics, I had to do some funky bending out of the headers to get them centered in the cross member humps and tucked up in there nice and tight. The exhaust will be side exit with tight clearances that's why I used the flex couplers so I can mount the tips fairly solid and still allow for movement. Maybe next weak I can start on the mufflers.

 

[benno440]

awesome mate, cant wait to see it finished

 

[roadrunnerman]

That is some excellent looking welding.

 

[Ron 73]

Looks like some excellent work in this, Hope you have a video plan for us to hear this beast! I know, i cant help myself when it comes to seeing these cars put back to there beauty, they always sound better! Great work with that TIG..

 

[Greg Ducato]

Nice job! I like the flex sections you added, should really help when that big engine get to torqueing!

 

[Mr.SpeedFreak]

Awesome progress 747, the bodywork and panel alignment looks spot-on!! And I like the wheels you're now leaning towards, think they'd fit the style of the project well. +1 to the crowd waiting for a video to hear that exhaust too :icon_thumleft:

 

[tallhair]

just checked out all your recent updates 747 looking great and however little time you've been doing it or how difficult it is you seem to have the hang of that welder. also concur with others panel gaps look good to me

 

[747mopar]

If you've been reading the motor forum you probably know why I haven't been posting much progress on my car "there isn't any". I've been messing with the motor and not having allot of luck. Once I got a few things straightened out and was finally ready to break in the cam I've had one problem after another, at first they where the typical easy fixes until now. I got the motor up to operating temp and idling smoothly to where I could walk around and look for leaks, that's when I heard a rattle coming from the passenger side valve cover "great". I shut it down and pulled the valve covers, everything looked good except a couple rockers felt loose so I readjusted them all "Still rattled". For some reason these lifters feel very soft in the first bit of they're stroke and then get really stiff, if you adjust the preload 1/2 a turn past zero lash the rockers are still somewhat soft. I read the Comp Cam recommendations that confirmed that I had done it correctly only they recommend .045 preload (1 full turn) I hoped this was it "nada, nope, still rattling. Guess I'll likely pull it apart.

 

[Budnicks]

sorry to hear about your motor issues... I hope it's something simple... spitballen-just a thought, do you have more than 3 full threads sticking out the bottom side of the rockers on the adjusters ??, if you do, you have either adjusted the rockers too tight or wrong pre-load or too short of push-rods more likely... you will get an annoying clicking noise & oil starvation at the pushrod tips/cup/adjuster balls, causing noise & eventually failure of the adjuster tips/balls, very common overlooked issues, with adjustable rockers & over the counter not custom length push-rods... Good luck

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exhaust looks great, Tig/Heliarch welders are the bomb {great} for sure

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possibly the push-rods hitting the heads on the side of the intake ports, especially if you have larger 3/8" push-rods & 1.6:1 rockers...

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if you have stock HP manifolds, not headers, it could be the thermal choke flapper rattling on the passenger side too, especially if the thermal wound spring is weak...

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the noise could be also if you are using shafts that only have oiling holes on one side of the rocker shafts, that then need to be oriented, were the shaft is with the holes down & pointing toward the outside of the engine in orientation, if you have some types of aftermarket rocker shafts they sometimes have oiling holes on both sides, so it doesn't matter... just trying to think of what else could be causing the noise, besides bad lifters possibly

 

[747mopar]

sorry to hear about your motor issues... I hope it's something simple... spitballen-just a thought, do you have more than 3 full threads sticking out the bottom side of the rockers on the adjusters ??, if you do, you have either adjusted the rockers too tight or wrong pre-load or too short of push-rods more likely... you will get an annoying clicking noise & oil starvation at the pushrod tips/cup/adjuster balls, causing noise & eventually failure of the adjuster tips/balls, very common overlooked issues, with adjustable rockers & over the counter not custom length push-rods... Good luck

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exhaust looks great, Tig/Heliarch welders are the bomb {great} for sure

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possibly the push-rods hitting the heads on the side of the intake ports, especially if you have larger 3/8" push-rods & 1.6:1 rockers...

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if you have stock HP manifolds, not headers, it could be the thermal choke flapper rattling on the passenger side too, especially if the thermal wound spring is weak...

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the noise could be also if you are using shafts that only have oiling holes on one side of the rocker shafts, that then need to be oriented, were the shaft is with the holes down & pointing toward the outside of the engine in orientation, if you have some types of aftermarket rocker shafts they sometimes have oiling holes on both sides, so it doesn't matter... just trying to think of what else could be causing the noise, besides bad lifters possibly

Thanks for the input, me being new to Mopar engines I did probably more reading then building when I built the engine. So I'll fill you in, I have Hooker Super Comp headers and 1.5 Comp Cam Magnum rockers. The rockers have one hole per rocker and I did read which way they went, I made an adjustable pushrod and custom ordered comp cam 5/16 pushrods (the rockers have a 5/16 cup) to leave one thread below the rocker once preloaded. This is driving me nuts. The zero lash is what's got me stumped, I can wiggle the pushrod up and down while adjusting the rocker until there is no wiggle and then set the preload and still be able to easily depress the lifter a bit before it get's firm, I'll fire it up and hear it rattle then open it back up and whatever lobes are off the lift will be loose (there won't be any play but hardly any resistence). I'm stumped, it seams like the lifters either aren't getting oil they are junk. I find it hard to believe that they aren't getting oil because they are firm just not all they way to the top. Right now with 1 full turn of preload I have about two threads showing. The last time I readjusted them I backed the adjuster all the way out and started all over so there should be no way I've got them preloaded to much. I'm going to call Comp Cam tomorrow. Thanks, I might recheck a few things when I get the chance.

 

[Mr.SpeedFreak]

Bummer, hopefully Comp can shed some light on it. I'm no expert and Bud covered anything I woulda guessed. Hope you can get it sorted
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[Jasoncoronet]

Just a Thought did you prime he lifters before you dropped them into the bore. I have had a couple of stubborn lifters that took a liitle while to fill up before they got quiet and worked properly. May just be that you may have to run it longer.

 

[747mopar]

I didn't prime them, Comp doesn't recommend it they actually tell you not to. It's got about 20 min or so on it, a lifter should pump up in seconds. I really don't want to run it any longer sounding like that. Thanks

 

[cdr]

china made lifters

try this http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...FP0_CuRNf4eVYeH9E7Dny0Q&bvm=bv.44990110,d.aWM

 

[Mr.SpeedFreak]

china made lifters

Damn Chinesium parts lol.

 

[747mopar]

I think I found the problem, look in the engine drivetrain forum where I posted some pics. Looks like they gave me SMALL BLOCK MOPAR lifters and yes they have the same bore. Once you see the difference it's pretty understandable why they won't pump up properly.

 

[cdr]

i would still put these in
Topline Johnson Hylift Lifters, Call "Paul" direct at 1-800-441-1400 and enter extension #609 when prompted.

 

[747mopar]

i would still put these in
Topline Johnson Hylift Lifters, Call "Paul" direct at 1-800-441-1400 and enter extension #609 when prompted.

I still need to find out for 100% sure that it is the problem but I will look into them if that's the case, thanks

 

[cdr]

by the way AWESOME CAR

 

[Mr.SpeedFreak]

For the sake of finally diagnosing a problem I hope that's what's wrong. Ready to see a strong idle/rev video and hear that exhaust :icon_thumleft: