And so it begins..... my new garage
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Man, I'd be looking for stuff for the rest of my life with all those drawers to store stuff in!! Beautiful bench and workmanship.
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Finally back on the garage, gravel is down and I just picked up a load of foam for the radiant floor. 
We recently just had a Menards super center built near us which is going to be a huge help with a much better selection on everything.. Lowes will be gone soon I'm sure.
We recently just had a Menards super center built near us which is going to be a huge help with a much better selection on everything.. Lowes will be gone soon I'm sure.
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Amazing looking cabinets!
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I didn't mention anything earlier and also didn't get to read everything lately...Be sure the pex tubing you get is "Hydronic" for your in floor application.
I never heard anything back...did you come up with a pex layout you can use?
I never heard anything back...did you come up with a pex layout you can use?
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It needs to have an oxygen barrier.
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I've got so many things going on I doubt it will get poured anytime soon but no I haven't got a concrete plan just yet. I'll get back with you when I'm getting close. I decided to build a wood storage shed, add 12' onto the back of the garage, redo my entertainment center in the house.... many irons in the fire.
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I don't have to according to my boiler guys but will just to be safe, for their boiler warranty you have to use a Molly additive which addresses that.
The drawers should be numbered and a book with what is in each one. I need to follow my own advice. I have but much more to do!!
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I'm going to have to put a drawer labeling system in place, I already can't find anything without opening 10 drawers! We had probably as many in our other shop I just haven't memorized these ones yet.
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Just let me know a little ahead of time if you need things moved around from the earlier design...
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I'll have to refresh my memory, seams that I was looking at more than 2 loops? Thanks
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Tried to send a p/m...it says your inbox is full...
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I'll check it out.
I refreshed my memory, here's what I had figured. I was told 1 linear ft of 1/2" PEX per square foot of floor was the basic formula so that figures up to just under 600ft of PEX divided by 3 runs equaling 200ft ea? I'm going to confirm all of this through a few sources but that's what I've got for now. My reason for wanting a contractor out here to look at it is if I put down the wire on top of the rebar there's nowhere to walk? I'm wondering if laying the PEX directly on the 16" center rebar would be adequate? Worst comes to worse I'll build planks to work the concrete from above?
So this is getting extremely frustrating, I absolutely hate dealing with contractors and every time I need one I remember why! A month ago I called every concrete contractor I could find, none answered and only 2 called me back one if which started laughing like an idiot when I told him it was being poured on 2" foam.. he obviously doesn't do a lot of work so I didn't bother! The second asked some questions and said he'd get back with me.. never did!
Now that I'm just about ready I got a few references from friends, 1 no return call and the other was supposed to be out Monday! I'm about ready to say F@$# it and do it myself, unbelievable!
I refreshed my memory, here's what I had figured. I was told 1 linear ft of 1/2" PEX per square foot of floor was the basic formula so that figures up to just under 600ft of PEX divided by 3 runs equaling 200ft ea? I'm going to confirm all of this through a few sources but that's what I've got for now. My reason for wanting a contractor out here to look at it is if I put down the wire on top of the rebar there's nowhere to walk? I'm wondering if laying the PEX directly on the 16" center rebar would be adequate? Worst comes to worse I'll build planks to work the concrete from above?
So this is getting extremely frustrating, I absolutely hate dealing with contractors and every time I need one I remember why! A month ago I called every concrete contractor I could find, none answered and only 2 called me back one if which started laughing like an idiot when I told him it was being poured on 2" foam.. he obviously doesn't do a lot of work so I didn't bother! The second asked some questions and said he'd get back with me.. never did!
Now that I'm just about ready I got a few references from friends, 1 no return call and the other was supposed to be out Monday! I'm about ready to say F@$# it and do it myself, unbelievable!
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I suspect there are some illegal aliens about, who would be more than happy to do the work....
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I'm at 4 300' loops on mine...the sq. ft. to linear foot ratio works out close for both your plan and my layout I put in my floor. Not sure about the 3 loops at 200' vs. the 2 loops at 300'...
Do you know where you want the loops to terminate? At what area of the drawing I sent you are you bringing your hot water in at? Once you figure out where you want to install the manifold I can start from there and then return there...
Biggest thing I have seen is you want the perimeter loops closer together as that is where the majority of the heat loss is concentrated...Out in the center the loops would be farther apart...
You might want to look at how your going to buy your pex...mine came in 300' lengths and that was what I ended up using.
Let me know what you decide and I'll try to modify the sketch accordingly...
FWIW I too know how much of a PITA having subs can be...
Do you know where you want the loops to terminate? At what area of the drawing I sent you are you bringing your hot water in at? Once you figure out where you want to install the manifold I can start from there and then return there...
Biggest thing I have seen is you want the perimeter loops closer together as that is where the majority of the heat loss is concentrated...Out in the center the loops would be farther apart...
You might want to look at how your going to buy your pex...mine came in 300' lengths and that was what I ended up using.
Let me know what you decide and I'll try to modify the sketch accordingly...
FWIW I too know how much of a PITA having subs can be...
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I put my rebar down then added the 6"x6" wire mesh...Ran the pex on the mesh and then after everything was done lifted the rebar up and sat it on bricks to get into the middle of the slab...
They make the rebar stands but from what I've seen they don't work worth a **** on top of the insulation...
We also used some scrap plywood on top of the pex when we had to wheelbarrow the concrete where the truck couldn't reach...
Be sure to pressurize your loops with air the night before and then check it periodically to make sure it maintains pressure....I set mine at 50#'s...
They make the rebar stands but from what I've seen they don't work worth a **** on top of the insulation...
We also used some scrap plywood on top of the pex when we had to wheelbarrow the concrete where the truck couldn't reach...
Be sure to pressurize your loops with air the night before and then check it periodically to make sure it maintains pressure....I set mine at 50#'s...
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The pex is tough and if you have at least 30psi on it good
next make sure they do not add hi early to speed up the set of the concrete as the insulation reflex's the heat to speed it up already
I use plastic staples https://www.amazon.ca/Malco-FBSN2-D...ode=df0&hvadid=292938351042&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=and install pex to foam then rebar on top supported by clean rocks or bricks or rebar supports
Yes the temp change response time is longer but not much
Re staples this not brand I use but gives you the idea
next make sure they do not add hi early to speed up the set of the concrete as the insulation reflex's the heat to speed it up already
I use plastic staples https://www.amazon.ca/Malco-FBSN2-D...ode=df0&hvadid=292938351042&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=and install pex to foam then rebar on top supported by clean rocks or bricks or rebar supports
Yes the temp change response time is longer but not much
Re staples this not brand I use but gives you the idea
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