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I got a lifter problem...I think?

All cleaned up :)

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Cool. Advice. Lube them on assembly, of course....BUT if that was my engine, I would change the oil in it.....again......and dump in a can of sea foam or marvels mystery oil.
 
all assembled :)

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Yeah, i dunked them in fresh motor oil before i assembled them..I just stuck one of the pushrods into my drill press, then wadded up a rag under it, then used the press to compress the lifter, then just stuck the closed part of the c-clip in there-n-let it back up...then pushed the open ends of the clips into the channel to lock it in :)

The engine is gonna get a helluva cleaning again before i put them back in...I'm gonna drain the oil, then dumped a few gallons of kerosene right down the engine valley, then a few quarts of cheap oil right back through it, then close up the engine, and some fresh oil/filter/MMO...That worked well when i cleaned it the first time with the damn squirrel nut incident lol...I'm sure it just needs it again...I still occasionally seen some small carbon particles on the oil stick before this happened...
 
Cool. So how well did the plungers compress? Nice and smooth I take it? I think you just fixed the hell out of your problem.
 
oh yeah..they all compress and rebound smooth like buttah now :)
 
Welp...I put it back together, cleaned it, new oil...and the same damn thing, clacky clacky clacky :(

I believe i have some serious oil galley clogging going on...the lifter are not getting oil like they should...I'm throwing in the towel on this money pit...time to replace it with a known good engine :)
 
Hold on before you do that. Did you put the rocker shafts on the right way? They only go on ONE way. Well.........they'll bolt on backwards but you'll get valve train noise. Do you know how they go on?

Here's how they attach. There are rows of small oil holes in them. Not the hold down bolt holes, but SMALL oil holes. The shafts bolt down so those holes are DOWN and pointing towards the valve springs, NOT towards the intake. Also, there's a notch in the ends of the shafts. The passenger side shaft notch should be DOWN and to the REAR of the engine. The driver's side should be DOWN and to the FRONT of the engine. That will position the oiling holes correctly.

Lastly.....and please forgive me as I forget which pedestal it is because I dont have a head in front of me, but one of the rocker pedestals on each side has an oil feed hole going down beside where the hold down bolt attaches. You can take a gun cleaning brush or even stiff mechanic's wire and make sure they are unobstructed too. I'm tellin you as I sit here.......you got somethin stupid easy wrong. As long as the bottom end ain't knockin, you probably got good oil pressure.

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And if you just gotta chunk it, give it to me. I'll drive to tunasea and get it.
 
thanks rusty :) i will take a look the rocker shafts on thursday, but i'm pretty sure i got them on there right, this isnt the first time i've had the rockers off this motor...Also, I seen oil pouring over the rocker that you can see through the oil cap hole while it was running...but i will re-check my work...


I'm about sick of dicking around with this engine...
 
The oil pouring over the rocker COULD be because the oil holes are facing UP. Then should face down and to the outside of the engine. Lemmie know if you wanna get rid of it. If it ain't too far into tunasea, I'll come get it. lol
 
ooooooh....i see what you are saying now, well, i may have definitely done that lol :laughing6:

I will check it out asap...maybe tomorrow after work lol :)
 
Hay and remember too......the rockers get their oil from the heads, not the lifters. Also.....it might take a few minutes for the lifters to pump back up from being disassembled. I would double check the rocker shafts, correct them if need be and give it another whirl. And like I said, it wouldnt hurt to check the oil feeds through the rocker pedestals too.
 
well, i gave the lifters plenty of run to time to pump back up, so i doubt thats the problem...it just would not stop clacking, and it was clacking LOUD..As in stand back and prepare to dodge engine parts flying out of the engine bay loud...:laughing6:
 
The rocker shafts could be the problem. Was it doing it that loudly before? Or was it just the one?
 
it was just the d-side bank making the racket before....the sound now is a uniform loud clacky clacky clacky coming from what i think is both banks...I'd say i have atleast one or both of the rocker shafts on upside down...I did not know they went a certain direction...they just looked like round shafts to me lol :)
 
They are, but they gott go on right too. lol I bet that's what happened. Good luck.
 
ok...i pulled the covers, the rocker shafts were put on correctly...ran the engine some more with the covers off, the rockers are getting oiled very nice, so no blockage...but the clacking is still there, and still quite loud...idk what to do next :0/
 
Are you 100% sure you put them all back together right? Hell, it sounds like it's makin more noise NOW than before from how you talk. My guess is, there's a blockage going to the lifters somewhere. Can you compress the lifter plungers with the rocker arms? Lastly.....if you took the rockers off the shafts.....you DO know there's a right and left offset for intake and exhaust, right?
 
Success! :hello2:

since i could not find anything wrong with my work, I decided that maybe the lifters were still not pumped up...So i poured the coolant back in it, fired that beech up and cranked the idle screw up to about 3000 rpm for around 10 minutes :laughing6:..It's quiet as a mouse now :):):)

A VERY special thanks to RustyRatRod {Rob} on this project...I could not have done it with out his help :headbang:
 
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