Who has MOVED from their home state ? How difficult was it for you?

[fratzog lover]

I've heard about that phrase all my life (both sides of my family are originally from TN, keep in mind).
To date, I've never heard anyone here in my 27+ years ever say it, though.

I have already banned that phrase from my mind!

 

[Triplegreen500]

I hate regrets. I hate being unprepared too.
The idea came about before I was ready in terms of work. I want to be retired and collecting my pension before the move. I don’t think there is any union work in Texas or Tennessee. Once I am retired, I may get some part time job to supplement my earnings.
The process to start collecting the pension is slow and frustrating. I did not know that it would take this long or I would have started the application process before I left my last job.

I'd reach out to the union, and find out if there are chapters where you're looking to relocate to...

 

[Fran Blacker]

I hate regrets. I hate being unprepared too.
The idea came about before I was ready in terms of work. I want to be retired and collecting my pension before the move. I don’t think there is any union work in Texas or Tennessee. Once I am retired, I may get some part time job to supplement my earnings.
The process to start collecting the pension is slow and frustrating. I did not know that it would take this long or I would have started the application process before I left my last job.

If your a good worker you don't need a union. If you want to tell the boss how do the job and he's a dumb *** things won't go well. Your not like that, right?

 

[Kern Dog]

Unfortunately, the union is like the mafia. If you work a non union payroll job, they delay your benefits.

 

[Fran Blacker]

Unfortunately, the union is like the mafia. If you work a non union payroll job, they delay your benefits.

You won't be in CA and they know your not working a union job? What they monitor your income on what your doing and how? There is under the table jobs.

 

[moparedtn]

I'd reach out to the union, and find out if there are chapters where you're looking to relocate to...

TN is a right to work state. Just sayin'.

 

[Kern Dog]

You won't be in CA and they know your not working a union job? What they monitor your income on what your doing and how? There is under the table jobs.

There were several years over my career that I had several months off of work. The pension administrators require documentation as to a member's earnings in those years, supposedly to root out instances where a member is working a non union job.
I had to request Social Security records for those years and they have taken 6 months so far to gather the information that they surely have easy access to. They are looking to penalize members that work for non union companies. There are occasions where there is no local work in my field so I have had to wait until work became available or had to take a short term non union job. The latter is unacceptable to them. Unemployment could be expired or unavailable but these pricks would rather that I flip burgers, sell insurance, deliver refrigerators or give erotic massages rather than take a framing job for a non union company.
I don't know how they know what the recipients are doing after retirement. They will only know that I did some in the past by reviewing records that I have to hand over.....as a requirement to apply for my pension.

 

[Fran Blacker]

There were several years over my career that I had several months off of work. The pension administrators require documentation as to a member's earnings in those years, supposedly to root out instances where a member is working a non union job.
I had to request Social Security records for those years and they have taken 6 months so far to gather the information that they surely have easy access to. They are looking to penalize members that work for non union companies. There are occasions where there is no local work in my field so I have had to wait until work became available or had to take a short term non union job. The latter is unacceptable to them. Unemployment could be expired or unavailable but these pricks would rather that I flip burgers, sell insurance, deliver refrigerators or give erotic massages rather than take a framing job for a non union company.
I don't know how they know what the recipients are doing after retirement. They will only know that I did some in the past by reviewing records that I have to hand over.....as a requirement to apply for my pension.

Think you have it right they're the mafia. Once your collecting a pension will it be any different? I wanted to deduct union political dues from my union. The answer you won't be a member in "good standing". Meaning they get you thrown out of the union and fired because CT. allows closed shops.

 

[Hey-O]

I hate regrets. I hate being unprepared too.
The idea came about before I was ready in terms of work. I want to be retired and collecting my pension before the move. I don’t think there is any union work in Texas or Tennessee. Once I am retired, I may get some part time job to supplement my earnings.
The process to start collecting the pension is slow and frustrating. I did not know that it would take this long or I would have started the application process before I left my last job.

I'm just kicking on you!! It's not easy and should never be taken lightly. It's a big decision and once made, there is no do overs on retiring once you get you pension. It's a big country and I know you'll find your piece of it. Moving is a joke and I've done it twice in two years. 4 thousand each time to move 22 miles and I gave most of my stuff away. My pension for 9 years in the carpenters union isn't enough to buy gas to drive a bb around the inside of a cheerio. I will say, they can't get enough union carpenters here in Missouri. I live in a new subdivision with new houses being built all round me and they are begging for workers and the pay for residential is around 35 and commercial is around 45. Be safe.

 

[barbee6043]

Sounds like working for the Mafia.

About 15 year ago I was building my next little country home. I wanted a plumber to help me with it all to go under the concrete slab. I found an out of work union plumber. He quoted his price as such and such union wages. I told him he was an out of work union worker and I was not the UNION!!! Cash talks an BS walks.

 

[69a100]

Well you haven't moved yet after 3 years. And as we get deeper & deeper into this recession, I don't see you doing anything but talking smack for the next 4 years about a dream that you can't put into motion, and will probably never, ever come true!!!

 

[Kern Dog]

The pay rate here is right at $50 per hour plus benefits...it is about $57 per hour closer to the San Francisco Bay.
Of course along with that are insane house prices, $5.00 gas and regulations on everything. In some counties, you need a city permit to take a piss. (Not really)
I don’t mind scaling back. Lower prices mean I wouldn’t need to earn as much.

 

[MarPar]

I think the one on the right we will nickname Mario.

Only if he's a cool cat...

 

[fratzog lover]

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Only if he's a cool cat...

Mario the cat having some dinner!

 

[MarPar]

Mario the cat having some dinner!

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Now that you fed him and named him, you have to take him in

 

[fratzog lover]

Now that you fed him and named him, you have to take him in

From what I understand from the locals, these are not your typical stray cats. More like celebs. People from town bring them goodies daily, mostly at night. Cindy already got to pet your namesake, but he has to be focused on eating. They are quite funny actually, laying around rolling on their backs, chasing bug.

 

[MarPar]

From what I understand from the locals, these are not your typical stray cats. More like celebs. People from town bring them goodies daily, mostly at night. Cindy already got to pet your namesake, but he has to be focused on eating. They are quite funny actually, laying around rolling on their backs, chasing bug.

Ha! Nice. Well, at least they are well looked after by the good townsfolk.

 

[BrianS]

The pay rate here is right at $50 per hour plus benefits...it is about $57 per hour closer to the San Francisco Bay.
Of course along with that are insane house prices, $5.00 gas and regulations on everything. In some counties, you need a city permit to take a piss. (Not really)
I don’t mind scaling back. Lower prices mean I wouldn’t need to earn as much.

As I am sure you are aware you need to look past the monetary part of the move. Quality of life is huge and right now in Calif that sucks-Sac is not as bad as where I live in Contra Commie County but it still sucks. As I mentioned in a previous post I have lived in multiple states but have only worked in Missouri, Oklahoma and Ca. Being retired is not a bad plan since area practice in other states (where it applies to work) is really different. I struggled in Oklahoma, as a Project Super the pace of work and the attitude towards schedule were pretty laid back my General Sup and Project Executive for JE Dunn loved me because I drove the project but the guys out in the field not so much. I also recently went on a rebuild trip for Samaritans Purse in Nashville and helped frame a house. The team leaders were from SC and much of the rest of team was from Ohio-we all struggled to find common work practices. Sounds odd but you know what I am saying.

If I am not mistaken you are a union Carpenter, same here. It will take about 4-5 months or so to push your pension through, I started mine in March of 20 and my first check arrived in August. And yes you have to jump through hoops, they even forced me to deactivate my Ca contractors license. Not as bad as the Ironworkers though-I had some pension credits with those guys also and had to jump through fiery hoops totally ridiculous. To answer the question about working construction out of state after retirement, the risk is just not worth it. The probability that they would find out is slim but it is a roll of the dice. One phone call to the union from someone you piss off and your pension is gone. Non licensed "handyman" would be lower risk but why not try something new?

A couple more things and I will shut up. I grew up in Missouri and even now when I go back many look at me at an outsider after 35 years of being gone. My family had been in the same county for 150 years and I still get crap from the locals so acceptance will take time where ever you go. My son moved to Idaho a year or so ago and his neighbor saw the Ca plates and instantly started quizzing him. The neighbor turned out to be a great guy and keeps an eye on my son for me but it took a bit. I would love to move to Idaho but I made the mistake of marrying a Ca girl and she thinks the earth is flat and drops off into the abyss at the Ca border.

Last but not least 60a100 is right, it is getting super expensive to move out of Calif. My son drove to Reno rented a uhaul drove it back to the Bay Area and then just paid for the excess miles when he dropped it off in Caldwell. From Pleasant Hill, Ca to Caldwell was $3600 and from Reno to Caldwell was $1300. That is why Newsom is Uhaul's salesman of the year. I would assume the same is true for larger haulers that you would use to move containers or car haulers. As far as pitching all furniture in the dumpster that is what many are doing when fleeing Commiefornia, simple math tells you it is cheaper to buy new rather than move it and now my son tells me furniture stores in his area are selling out of furniture as fast as they can order it, that is probably not the case in Tennessee though.

 

[Hey-O]

I had nine years in the carpenters union and left. Thirty two years later I phone and asked if I had anything coming from them, they took my information and said they'd get back with me. The next day they called and said yes, I did have a vested pension with them. I went to their office filled out some papers and the first month after I turn 62 they started sending me money, done. I have no understanding of California or how it works, but, I will say that everyone that I have ever met from their was so glad to get out, as if they were set free. That's sad, I would think if they changed the way the state is run, it would be like living in paradise.

 

[Dennis H]

I had nine years in the carpenters union and left. Thirty two years later I phone and asked if I had anything coming from them, they took my information and said they'd get back with me. The next day they called and said yes, I did have a vested pension with them. I went to their office filled out some papers and the first month after I turn 62 they started sending me money, done. I have no understanding of California or how it works, but, I will say that everyone that I have ever met from their was so glad to get out, as if they were set free. That's sad, I would think if they changed the way the state is run, it would be like living in paradise.

It was 15 years of service in ATU for me back in the 70’s and 80’s. Turned 65 and made the call. Found I had Vested and am getting a small pension. Not a lot, but adds another income stream to the trickle. About $200 a month. Just wish we could bump the 457, but it’s not “earned income. First thing is to do is live long enough.